[Tom4784]

There's something about all of this that just doesn't sit right with me, I don't think he is innocent by any stretch of the imagination but there's a lot more to this story then we are being told.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There's something about all of this that just doesn't sit right with me, I don't think he is innocent by any stretch of the imagination but there's a lot more to this story then we are being told.

Indeed.

The main things that make me think this are

-The 'confession' on the inside of the boat. They said he did it in his own blood..fair enough (though I find that quite odd) then they said a marker. The confession wasnt 'found' until days later..I think they need a new forensics team if they didnt spot this confession..

- He was pretty uninjured when coming out of the boat (meaning he used his own strength..he may have had injuries, but you wouldnt imagine they were life threatening since he could climb out himself). Yet ended up in a serious condition after being shot in the throat. We were told he did this to himself in a suicide attempt, before finding out he was unarmed. Who shot him in the throat..and why? Also he had an hour long gunfight with police..whilst unarmed


I just hate this trial by media thing that happens every damn time. Everyone has decided this guy is guilty (probably including the jury) before any actual evidence is seen. Trial by media is even more annoying when there are so many holes in the story :S

[arista]

Things magazines do to stay selling and afloat.

[Z]

There's a huge furore over them using that cover... clearly did it to get attention, they should just re-issue it with a plain cover

[Vicky.]

Some celebs are dying to be on the cover of the rolling stone. All you have to do is be accused of murder and you get your wish

I find it quite ridiculous to be honest. But not as ridiculous as the media circus surrounding this story. Even on there, they already have him as guilty.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Some celebs are dying to be on the cover of the rolling stone. All you have to do is be accused of murder and you get your wish

I find it quite ridiculous to be honest. But not as ridiculous as the media circus surrounding this story. Even on there, they already have him as guilty.

Yeah it's kinda crazy how they've fast tracked him through legal proceedings to get him in court ASAP, they've clearly decided he's guilty and want to get him condemned before it slips out of the public's conscience.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Zee

Yeah it's kinda crazy how they've fast tracked him through legal proceedings to get him in court ASAP, they've clearly decided he's guilty and want to get him condemned before it slips out of the public's conscience.

I have a feeling its because at the moment while its still quite raw..the jury have already decided he is guilty. They would be hard pushed to find a jury who haven't seen all the reports about it. I think they may be worried their evidence isnt enough..especially if that photo of him leaving the bag is part of their evidence as that is ridiculous..even from a still photo you can see he hasnt even dropped the bag and is just swinging it

Apparently this trial must be totally private as its a matter of national security too. Though there has been little bits of leaked footage from his initial hearing.

[Z]

Pretty sad really... I hope that they have the right perpetrator and that justice will be served, but it's quite clear that there are some inconsistencies in prosecuting Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and while I don't know if that means they've got the wrong guy, it does mean that the trial is probably going to be flawed and not exactly fair...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zee

There's a huge furore over them using that cover... clearly did it to get attention, they should just re-issue it with a plain cover

Yes they have sold more due to that Photo
of the Co -Killer

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Some celebs are dying to be on the cover of the rolling stone. All you have to do is be accused of murder and you get your wish

I find it quite ridiculous to be honest. But not as ridiculous as the media circus surrounding this story. Even on there, they already have him as guilty.

Yes another Rock Star goes bankrupt
because they used the Front page to
get the Bigger sales of the sexy mag

[Nedusa]

should make for an interesting Trial....!!

[arista]

The magazine has now been removed from many stores


ref: CNN America, RTHD, FoxNewsHD, and NBC

[Sticks]

The idea was supposed to be that even the fresh faced youth from next door could be radicalised by certain groups.

[GypsyGoth]

So Rolling Stone magazine was behind the bombings, I didn't see that plot twist coming.

[arista]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

So Rolling Stone magazine was behind the bombings, I didn't see that plot twist coming.

No they write inside the mag
they are wrong.

Its just using the 2nd killer
as a Front page sexy type Image has split the nation,

[Nedusa]

I do not agree with the wording on the front cover, to print the words "the Bomber" is surely jumping the gun as his trial has not even started yet. As he is surely innocent until proven guilty I do not think this magazine should jump on the trial by media bandwagon and proclaim his guilt before the trial has even begun.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I do not agree with the wording on the front cover, to print the words "the Bomber" is surely jumping the gun as his trial has not even started yet. As he is surely innocent until proven guilty I do not think this magazine should jump on the trial by media bandwagon and proclaim his guilt before the trial has even begun.

Every single news source that talks about it has declared him the bomber already so its understandable. The ones reporting on the court case were going on about how bad it was that he is showing no remorse..forgetting that there is a slim chance he has nothing to show remorse for. I saw one report saying he should just plead guilty to spare the families/victims of the torture of going through the trial

[arista]

Vicky he was there with his brother
He is Guilty of murder
Utter Fact

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Vicky he was there with his brother
He is Guilty of murder
Utter Fact

Erm..as were thousands of other people?

[Z]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Every single news source that talks about it has declared him the bomber already so its understandable. The ones reporting on the court case were going on about how bad it was that he is showing no remorse..forgetting that there is a slim chance he has nothing to show remorse for. I saw one report saying he should just plead guilty to spare the families/victims of the torture of going through the trial

Yeah it's a bit ridiculous, the guy hasn't been proven guilty by a court yet, it's wrong to print libel like this - because that's what it is at this stage...

[Vicky.]

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...7/18/tsarnaev/

I suspect the photographer who released these has opened up a new can of worms now tbh. The other photo released of him getting out of the boat did not show his throat. This one does. And oddly enough, there is no gunshot wound, or slit..and certainly not the amount of blood that would come from a wound like that. So that happened after he was arrested it seems :S

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...7/18/tsarnaev/

I suspect the photographer who released these has opened up a new can of worms now tbh. The other photo released of him getting out of the boat did not show his throat. This one does. And oddly enough, there is no gunshot wound, or slit..and certainly not the amount of blood that would come from a wound like that. So that happened after he was arrested it seems :S

Maybe he tried killing himself in custody, there is some blood though.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

Maybe he tried killing himself in custody, there is some blood though.

Where would he get a gun/knife from to attempt suicide in custody? The throat wound appeared between getting out of the boat, and getting to hospital. And he was searched as soon as he got out of the boat.

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Where would he get a gun/knife from to attempt suicide in custody? The throat wound appeared between getting out of the boat, and getting to hospital. And he was searched as soon as he got out of the boat.

just someone not paying close enough attention.

[Vicky.]

http://news.sky.com/story/1130988/bo...during-capture

Edit. Warning: Link has some potentially distressing photos on it.

Boston Suspect Shot In Face During Capture
The younger of the Tsarnaev brothers is revealed to have been hit in the mouth by a police bullet, along with other injuries.

Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was shot several times including once in the face before he was captured, according to a doctor who treated him.

Previous accounts of the 20-year-old's injuries were less specific.

He was previously reported to have suffered a gunshot wound to the neck, after he was tracked down to his hideout in a boat in a Watertown back garden.

The new details come from a newly-released deposition given by Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Centre's Dr Stephen Ray Odom three days after the April 19 arrest.

Transcripts of the testimony were unsealed on Monday.
Photos taken by police and released by Boston Magazine show the standoff surrounding Dzokhar Tsarnaev's arrest Dzhokhar Tsarnaev surrenders as he is surrounded by police marksmen

The Boston Globe reported that Dr Odom described the most severe injury as a gunshot to the face that "appears to have entered through the left side inside of his mouth and exited the left face, lower face".

The suspect also suffered a skull fracture and various other injuries.

"This was a high-powered injury that has resulted in skull-base fracture, with injuries to the middle ear, the skull base, the lateral portion of his C1 vertebrae, with a significant soft-tissue injury, as well as injury to the pharynx, the mouth, and a small vascular injury that's been treated," Dr Odom testified.

He continued treating the younger Tsarnaev for several days after he was taken to hospital.

"He has multiple gunshots [sic] wounds to the extremities that have been treated with dressing to the lower extremities; and in the case of his left hand, he had multiple bony injuries as well that were treated with fixation and soft-tissue coverage, as well as tendon repair and vascular ligation," Dr Odom added.

Authorities say Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his older brother Tamerlan masterminded the Boston Marathon bombing on April 15, which left three people dead and injured more than 260 others.

Dzhokhar has pleaded not guilty to charges including using a weapon of mass destruction to kill. He is being held at a prison medical facility in Devens, Massachusetts.

Tamerlan died in a shoot-out with police.

Massachusetts State Police photographer Sergeant Sean Murphy released more than a dozen photographs, some showing an injured Dzhokar, to Boston Magazine in July.

Can anyone explain to me, how a police bullet can enter through the inside of his mouth, and exit through the lower left side of his face, without it being on purpose, and at quite close range?

Sorry, this whole thing stinks to high heaven. This shot to the face(from inside his mouth) only came out because the court ordered sealed documents to be unsealed. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...ilebasic?pli=1