[arista]

Johnson PM
confirmed he will he will get deal by Oct 18th.

[Alf]

I keep hearing that "No deal wasn't on the ballot paper," and that's the excuse remainers use. Well "a deal" wasn't on the ballot paper either. They never mention that while they're screaming out their excuses.

[Ammi]

...whether it be a ‘remoaner’ or a Brexiter, surely everyone should be ‘screaming’ against something which compromises the Good Friday Agreement and leads to potential bloodshed in the streets...surely that’s a fear and dread that everyone should have...this is not a game to be played out, these are people’s lives and the fear for people’s lives should be screamed about...Brexiting with a deal was never going to give the same dreaded potentials, so why would it be screamed about in the same way...

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

I keep hearing that "No deal wasn't on the ballot paper," and that's the excuse remainers use. Well "a deal" wasn't on the ballot paper either. They never mention that while they're screaming out their excuses.

Come on Alf, you're not a stupid guy; a deal was was not only campaigned for by leavers, but no deal was explicitly dismissed as project fear. You lived through this too. All of the brexit leaders were talking of a norway but better deal, about the eu would come to us for a deal etc.

When folks keep peddling this same bs rather than acknowledge they were lied to, then it's just crazy.

On top of that, May called a GE to get a majority so she could force through a hard brexit, 54% (a higher percentage than the ref) voted for parties that explicitly ruled out a no deal.

When you get an hour over the next few days, do me a favour and go on yt and lookup some of the brexit promises in that campaign.

You've also, and without intending to do so, explained full well why we need a final referendum with the deal/no deal vs revoke.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Come on Alf, you're not a stupid guy; a deal was was not only campaigned for by leavers, but no deal was explicitly dismissed as project fear. You lived through this too. All of the brexit leaders were talking of a norway but better deal, about the eu would come to us for a deal etc.

When folks keep peddling this same bs rather than acknowledge they were lied to, then it's just crazy.

On top of that, May called a GE to get a majority so she could force through a hard brexit, 54% (a higher percentage than the ref) voted for parties that explicitly ruled out a no deal.

When you get an hour over the next few days, do me a favour and go on yt and lookup some of the brexit promises in that campaign.

You've also, and without intending to do so, explained full well why we need a final referendum with the deal/no deal vs revoke.

We had a sort of second referendum with the 2017 General Election, where the Tories put "no deal is better than a bad deal" in their manifesto. The Tories came out on top.

Lying to win votes is what happens, and will always happen. What matters is how the people vote.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

We had a sort of second referendum with the 2017 General Election, where the Tories put "no deal is better than a bad deal" in their manifesto. The Tories came out on top.

Lying to win votes is what happens, and will always happen. What matters is how the people vote.

Fake news
They didn't win if you count the votes of all opposition parties calling for a soft brexit or no brexit at all
More people voted for those than no deal

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Fake news
They didn't win if you count the votes of all opposition parties calling for a soft brexit or no brexit at all
More people voted for those than no deal

If you count the votes of all opposition parties.

We don't. If we did, then all opposition would be in Government.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

That 54% can't have been to bothered. because they were more than happy to split the vote of the others, to give the No deal option victory.

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Fake news
They didn't win if you count the votes of all opposition parties calling for a soft brexit or no brexit at all
More people voted for those than no deal

.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

We had a sort of second referendum with the 2017 General Election, where the Tories put "no deal is better than a bad deal" in their manifesto. The Tories came out on top.

Lying to win votes is what happens, and will always happen. What matters is how the people vote.

I already said that 54% of voters, voted for parties that explicitly ruled out a no deal.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I already said that 54% of voters, voted for parties that explicitly ruled out a no deal.

But elections don't work like that in this country.

If we all kept changing the rules of the outcome to suit us every time we lose, then we wouldn't lose.

Brits used to know how to lose gracefully, now we live in a country of people who are spoilt brats, that want it their way every single time, and if they do lose, they stamp their feet, throw their toys and spit their dummy out.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

We had a sort of second referendum with the 2017 General Election, where the Tories put "no deal is better than a bad deal" in their manifesto. The Tories came out on top.

Lying to win votes is what happens, and will always happen. What matters is how the people vote.

A perfect embodiment of what is wrong with politics right here, you know you're being lied to and you're ignoring the consequences and supporting such a ****show because, ultimately, all that matters is the feeling that you've 'won' no matter the cost.

[arista]

[Denver]

Parliament will be closed by the end of business today

[arista]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Parliament will be closed by the end of business today

Yes Last day of Parliament
today.

Then its the Political Party Conferences


Back on Monday October 14th

[arista]

The Flying birds pick up the mood.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-john...ction-11805412

[Twosugars]

Fake news.

Big Ben is surrounded by scaffolding

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Fake news.

Big Ben is surrounded by scaffolding

Of Course Old Photo
better days

[Twosugars]

Brilliant clip, thanks TSR

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Brilliant clip, thanks TSR

Typical Clip avoids our PM talking.

[Vicky.]

'Leavers voted for no deal!!!' is just lies. ALL of the leavers I know, voted assuming we were in a position of strength and would get any deal we like from the EU..basically. That it was all going to be easy. Which clearly, it hasn't been. But no, they did not vote to crash out and **** the country. Maybe the ones who believed we could keep all immigrants out, and kick out any remaining brown people did vote that way though..given they are clearly a bit thick and care about nothing but their racism.

The amount of leavers who said to me that we would be able to get a trade deal, whilst also closing our borders completely was ridiculous. There was never a reason for that to be agreed. As if the Eu would just let us keep the good bits, and get rid of the bad, why the **** would they do that?! But they had been convinced that that would be happening..for some odd reason

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

'Leavers voted for no deal!!!' is just lies. ALL of the leavers I know, voted assuming we were in a position of strength and would get any deal we like from the EU..basically. That it was all going to be easy. Which clearly, it hasn't been. But no, they did not vote to crash out and **** the country. Maybe the ones who believed we could keep all immigrants out, and kick out any remaining brown people did vote that way though..given they are clearly a bit thick and care about nothing but their racism.

The amount of leavers who said to me that we would be able to get a trade deal, whilst also closing our borders completely was ridiculous. There was never a reason for that to be agreed. As if the Eu would just let us keep the good bits, and get rid of the bad, why the **** would they do that?! But they had been convinced that that would be happening..for some odd reason

Vicky for mod! Oh wait....

[arista]

Johnson PM
wants a Election
as Corbyn is Remain now.
So its Clear, of course tonight no other party will back
any vote the PM does.

[Tom4784]

Anyone who has ever called a remainer 'undemocratic' or has bemoaned their views or made them out to be morally wrong in any way are a complete and utter hypocrite if they support Boris pulling this **** and flouting the law just to get what he wants.

It's a complete ****ery of democracy what he has done and what he is planning to do, regardless of what side you are on.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Anyone who has ever called a remainer 'undemocratic' or has bemoaned their views or made them out to be morally wrong in any way are a complete and utter hypocrite if they support Boris pulling this **** and flouting the law just to get what he wants.

It's a complete ****ery of democracy what he has done and what he is planning to do, regardless of what side you are on.

Again Dezzy its only 5 days extra
as all Political Parties spend 4 weeks
doing the Conferences.
Why has Labour Not Cancelled ?