[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I’m pretty sure that’s one of the actresses in Sucker Punch...

...Bottom of the World...

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...it’s really difficult to say that it’s a good movie because it’s such a disturbing movie but it was totally engrossing...you always feel with that type of psychological thing that if you blink a bit too long, you’d miss some key points so I was completely drawn in...I think that it felt from the beginning that her story had truth and from when Alex took Alex into the desert ......it was obvious that it was him...(...only because his eyes were exactly the same...)....I thought that when he and Paige were making love, that might have been ‘the reality’ part with the dog...but in his dream, it was Paige, this incredibly beautiful partner...you know, his dreams being completely different to how he was entrapped in his paralysed state...and obviously the clue as well was those words that were repeated...that we needed to look inside, not outside...anyways, just a really (grim) storyline and depressing movie but so absorbing as well...but I still don’t quite understand, who was Alex../...to Scarlett, who was he...?...

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See I don't think it was Alex's dream or "world" at all, I think it was all Scarlett's mind. I think Scarlett was his cousin who did kill him which she obviously eventually felt very guilty about and became depressed and an alcoholic and eventually over dosed but in her dream world had Alex kill her as some sort of retribution

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Oh it is, it's Rocket, isn't it?

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I don't know if I'm right btw, this is just what I took from it

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Oh as well

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When he's in the church talking to the Preacher/Scarletts dad and he puts the gun to his head he says I'm dreaming and he says it's not your dream (or something along those lines

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh as well

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When he's in the church talking to the Preacher/Scarletts dad and he puts the gun to his head he says I'm dreaming and he says it's not your dream (or something along those lines

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...oh yeah, he did say that as well...I was struggling to hear that bit, I kept switching the sound up but still not finding it clear so I think that I was too focused on finally hearing it and then overlooked it....I just don’t understand the bits of the dream that she wasn’t in...him in the desert and him with Paige...did she dream Paige as a future life that he could have had...?...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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...oh yeah, he did say that as well...I was struggling to hear that bit, I kept switching the sound up but still not finding it clear so I think that I was too focused on finally hearing it and then overlooked it....I just don’t understand the bits of the dream that she wasn’t in...him in the desert and him with Paige...did she dream Paige as a future life that he could have had...?...

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The sound did seem a bit muffled sometimes alright. I don't know maybe it's her trying to hide from what she's done and trying to make Alex/Wayne be alive and happy? But again when he's looking through the pea's talking about being in a dream and then he gets up and Paige is gone and he finds her in the kitchen looking at peas and then the Peas disappear, is it like her guilt trying to pop up and her trying to push it back down again

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

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The sound did seem a bit muffled sometimes alright. I don't know maybe it's her trying to hide from what she's done and trying to make Alex/Wayne be alive and happy? But again when he's looking through the pea's talking about being in a dream and then he gets up and Paige is gone and he finds her in the kitchen looking at peas and then the Peas disappear, is it like her guilt trying to pop up and her trying to push it back down again

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.yeah I guess in thinking about it now, we knew it was a dream but not sure whose dream it was...?...I mean, he only existed inside his head as well as he was paralysed...?..and Scarlett obviously did as well in her alcohol haze through guilt...but you’re right, the clues are there that it was her dream...her father/the preacher said so...Alex wasn’t sure, though, if it was his dream...(...and obviously I got it wrong as well, thinking it might be his...)...but the clue was there with the peas as well, why would one bad pea be in his dream...he wouldn’t have dreamt it like that, it made no sense...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

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.yeah I guess in thinking about it now, we knew it was a dream but not sure whose dream it was...?...I mean, he only existed inside his head as well as he was paralysed...?..and Scarlett obviously did as well in her alcohol haze through guilt...but you’re right, the clues are there that it was her dream...her father/the preacher said so...Alex wasn’t sure, though, if it was his dream...(...and obviously I got it wrong as well, thinking it might be his...)...but the clue was there with the peas as well, why would one bad pea be in his dream...he wouldn’t have dreamt it like that, it made no sense...

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So maybe his "perfect" life with Paige where he has a nice house, car, wife, job etc, that was the "can of peas" and when he finds that bad one, it's the guilty secret that Scarlett is hiding? lots of food for thought...pardon the pun

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Oh yeah me too, I love that film, there's two different ending to it as well

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh yeah me too, I love that film, there's two different ending to it as well

...I will search some more to see if I can find it, even if it means watching in parts like we did with that other movie on YouTube...

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Great stuff, I need to run now, I'll talk to you later

[Ammi]

...this looks a bit different and maybe a lighter watch, I don’t know if you’ve seen it before...

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I've seen Level 16 and cargo pretty recently, both are very good though Ammi if you're looking for ones for your own list

I think Blinded by the light might be a good one, like you say a bit lighter? Is it on netflix? I won't be doing a lunchtime viewing today though as I need to go out on my break

[Ammi]

...yeah, I will watch those two as well...I’m loving this thread because it makes me hunt out movies that I might usually miss...I’m coming across quite a few that are a few years old, so they’re presumably previously missed ones...and yeah, it’s on Netflix...I’ll watch it later today, it looks a bit of a lighter one but I like the sound of it...

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah, I will watch those two as well...I’m loving this thread because it makes me hunt out movies that I might usually miss...I’m coming across quite a few that are a few years old, so they’re presumably previously missed ones...and yeah, it’s on Netflix...I’ll watch it later today, it looks a bit of a lighter one but I like the sound of it...

I'll try to get it watched tonight

[Ammi]

...Blinded by the Light.......awww and it was based on a true story...

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... the movie was inspired by the life of journalist Sarfraz Manzoor and his love of the works of Bruce Springsteen...through his life he saw him in concert over 150 times ....I loved the film...although there were so many uplifting parts, we totally felt the hardships and prejudices of the time as well...that thing of dreams versus family commitments etc...

"Pakistanis do not go to parties."...and they don’t have a social life unless it’s a daylight hours one that their parents aren’t aware of and they don’t listen to popular music and they don’t dance and they don’t have girlfriends and they don’t write poetry or songs ...etc etc...I think we can all relate as well to that first time that we listened to a music artist who changed our lives, who totally seemed to relate to us, to understand us, to be part of us...THAT artist who just knew us... ‘that awakening’ ...and that’s obviously what Javed felt when he first was given those Bruce tapes and his dreams were opened up to something he’d never felt before ...but the reality of his life was his responsibilities to his struggling family...his mother working every moment as a seamstress and his dad’s job loss in the 80’s recession when there were virtually no jobs to be had...and in a world of rising Nationalism and racism as well...and so sad to think that there are still elements of those things now...

....it was beautifully done when you felt both of his worlds...his world of Bruce and dreams and his world of responsibilities and complete love for and devotion to his parents, who had worked so hard for all of their children....

...*sigh*...it was just a really, really great watch and not taxing on the thoughts ......

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Blinded by the Light

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I loved this one, lighthearted but some serious issues in there too. Terrible to see the racism Pakistanis faced (and probably still do) It's really sad to see humans treating each other that way. And of course the family issues which weren't that specific to Pakistani families I don't think. I mean it's sort of a cultural thing but similar issues do come out in other families too maybe just in a slightly different way for different reasons. Anyway i loved it and so did Gav.

Useless piece of trivia for you is that Bruce Springsteen is one of Eddie Vedders best friends

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Blinded by the Light

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I loved this one, lighthearted but some serious issues in there too. Terrible to see the racism Pakistanis faced (and probably still do) It's really sad to see humans treating each other that way. And of course the family issues which weren't that specific to Pakistani families I don't think. I mean it's sort of a cultural thing but similar issues do come out in other families too maybe just in a slightly different way for different reasons. Anyway i loved it and so did Gav.

Useless piece of trivia for you is that Bruce Springsteen is one of Eddie Vedders best friends

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...yeah, my brothers wife is a Sikh and she’s had some pretty grim stuff through her life...yeah, I think that the family issues were also a part of that time...(...and other times also...)...but because there was such a recession then and their father had been laid of at the factory, it was even more important that all of the focus was on bringing in income to the home...while still focusing on studies etc so there was a future of education and better job prospects...

...I didn’t know that of a Bruce Springsteen and Eddie Vedder......wasn’t it lovely at the end when we saw Javed and Bruce together and saw how many times he had seen him in concert and how they had bonded as well...gorgeous movie, perfect after all of the more kind stretching ones we’ve had...

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The real "Javed" and his family

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

The real "Javed" and his family

...I haven’t really read properly yet but is his wife the same person that was his girlfriend in the movie, did he go on to marry her or someone else..?..also don’t you think that Javed looks a little like Mark Ruffalo...?...

[Ammi]

...how adorable are their children.....

[Ammi]

...tbh, the movie captured my heart in the first few seconds with the motorway signs for The North...I felt that rush of excitement that I always feel when I’m ‘going home’...and I see those signs...