[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Livia

AngelChair, I like you. We should probably stop debating this. For clarity I'll just say this then drop off this thread: That song, or a version of it, has connotations with British people who suffered thought the Troubles. I have no problem at all with Irish people and if they want to sing that song at home all day long then that's just fine with me. I just thought it was a little naive and unthinking of her to sing it there, with Steve being around.

You should deffo drop off - Fields is a freedom song . It's not Steve's fault he was sent to a wrong war any more than the coffins coming back from Afghanistan

[Princess]

Originally Posted by Locke.

She was playing for England, should have sang the anthem.

Why would she even know the English national anthem? She's not English.

[brian3]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Sectarianism in Scottish football terms is also a misnomer for Unionism. It was a fooball task (4-1 bye the way when Germany decided not to rub it in more by putting their 2nd team on in a triple substitution) Hence Rangers fans fly the Union Jack and sing God Save the Queen.

the Celtic fans have the Tricolour out a matches. How is that any diffrent

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by brian3

the Celtic fans have the Tricolour out a matches. How is that any diffrent

It's not - it's Sectarianism, which is why I mentioned the Irish war is still happening in Scotland. If I go to Celtic Park, I take my tricola (I have no religion). If I go to see Scotland play England at anything (tiddlywinks even) I'd take the St Andrews cross that has been all over Europe in soccer and American Football.

I cannot go to the bar that is 100 metres from my house because I'm not a Hun with a Union Jack.

Asking an Irish person to sing God Save the Queen is out of order.

[SoFarSoGood282]

Originally Posted by Livia

So, Fields of Athenry doesn't have any connection with republicans? Really?

Okaaaaay...

The song is a Irish folk song, there is a republican chorus that some people sing but that doesn't make the original song a rebel song. It would be a rebel song if she sang the other chorus!

[tmx]

Originally Posted by Deirdre

Why wasn't JJ wearing the Aussie kit?

He didn't want to. He was givne the option but said he supported England

[Deirdre]

Originally Posted by tmx

He didn't want to. He was givne the option but said he supported England

Oh right, I see

[setanta]

Caoimhe's jersey? A thing of beauty, wasn't it?

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by setanta

Caoimhe's jersey? A thing of beauty, wasn't it?

The German HMs ones were better!

[brian3]

Originally Posted by Claymores

It's not - it's Sectarianism, which is why I mentioned the Irish war is still happening in Scotland. If I go to Celtic Park, I take my tricola (I have no religion). If I go to see Scotland play England at anything (tiddlywinks even) I'd take the St Andrews cross that has been all over Europe in soccer and American Football.

I cannot go to the bar that is 100 metres from my house because I'm not a Hun with a Union Jack.

Asking an Irish person to sing God Save the Queen is out of order.

saying the word Hun is even more out of order. It shows just how much of a bigot you are.

Also plaeae explain to me why bting a tricola to Celtic match is any less offensive than a union jack.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Claymores

The German HMs ones were better!

They were yesterday anyway.

[Kaaarenn!]

Originally Posted by Locke.

And she didn't sing the national anthem because she was Irish aswell, but Dave still sang it even though he is Welsh. They should have just locked the useless bitch in the house.

I thought she wasn't singing it because she didn't know the words lol

[soleila]

I'm Irish and I don't know the English anthem - do you know ours?
Anyways, JJ was given an Oz uniform and requested an English one, prob trying to look like David Beckham. He knew the words cos he's basically British!

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by soleila

I'm Irish and I don't know the English anthem - do you know ours?

last time i checked this was the english big brother, not the irish one!

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by brian3

saying the word Hun is even more out of order. It shows just how much of a bigot you are.

Also plaeae explain to me why bting a tricola to Celtic match is any less offensive than a union jack.

Hun, Mick/Paddy - it's how we call Rangers/Celtic fans without trouble - and as an East Fife fan from me they wear that term with honour.

How can I be bigoted when have no religion?????

Tricola is no less offensive - which is why we do it. My area is predominantly prodi and Unionist - we sing Fields or Irish National Anthem back at the Unionists just to annoy them as they have done singing God Save the Queen to us.

I'm mainly an East Fire Supporter and we chave a song about Cowdenbeath, the Cowden Famileee, a pisstake on the Adams Family, so BB has been quite funny


Get over it kiddo - nobody likes Engerland except the engerlish

[JustKaz]

Originally Posted by supergirthuk

Dave's shirt was an england shirt but it had a wales badge on it to represent his nationality. Dont you think BB could have afforded proper shirts for them. what a bunch of money grabbers they are. Shame on you BB.

That so made me laugh!!! England shirt with Wales badge????

Dave had a WALES football shirt on.

[brian3]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Hun, Mick/Paddy - it's how we call Rangers/Celtic fans without trouble - and as an East Fife fan from me they wear that term with honour.

How can I be bigoted when have no religion?????

Tricola is no less offensive - which is why we do it. My area is predominantly prodi and Unionist - we sing Fields or Irish National Anthem back at the Unionists just to annoy them as they have done singing God Save the Queen to us.

I'm mainly an East Fire Supporter and we chave a song about Cowdenbeath, the Cowden Famileee, a pisstake on the Adams Family, so BB has been quite funny


Get over it kiddo - nobody likes Engerland except the engerlish

I'm glad it's all a big laugh for you. But In northern Ireland Hun is an bigoted term. You could get fired from work, your head kicked in or even killed for saying it.

It causes great offence to half the population over here.

Perhapes to you it's all fun and games on the weekend.

[brian3]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

last time i checked this was the english big brother, not the irish one!

It's the British BB. Even if it was the English BB people who are not from England have the right not to put on the shirt.

[Lee.]

Yeah. The English contestants all had English shirts on, David had a Welsh shirt, JJ apparently had an Aussie shirt and requested and England one for whatever reason and Caoimhe had an Irish one.. Fair enough I reckon?
And as for her singing the English anthem? Why would she know it/want to sing it? I certainly wouldn't stand with my hand on my heart and sing another country's anthem! She did right just to stay quiet!

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

last time i checked this was the english big brother, not the irish one!

Check again sprog - this is supposed to be UK -Big Brother, hence why you night well have Irish, Welsh or Scottish contestants at some point.

[pixee]

Why didn't JJ have australia shirt?

Anyway national anthem is outdated but if your a pro footballer guess you have to but i wouldn't sing it and i'm english.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by brian3

I'm glad it's all a big laugh for you. But In northern Ireland Hun is an bigoted term. You could get fired from work, your head kicked in or even killed for saying it.

It causes great offence to half the population over here.

Perhapes to you it's all fun and games on the weekend.

It is not a big laugh - my cousin is still in the UVDA and the war is alive and well here. I object to your dismissing this

[Smiddy]

Originally Posted by Claymores

Check again sprog - this is supposed to be UK -Big Brother, hence why you night well have Irish, Welsh or Scottish contestants at some point.

Ireland isn't part of the UK. UK Big Brother has Irish people in it because they hold auditions in Dublin. Simple as.

Anyway this thread is ridiculous, I wouldn't have sang the English National Anthem if I was in the house.

Because:

1. I don't know the words
2. I'm not English

Just like I wouldn't expect an English person to know/sing the Irish National Anthem if they were on an Irish TV Show.

[pixee]

Originally Posted by Smiddy

Ireland isn't part of the UK. UK Big Brother has Irish people in it because they hold auditions in Dublin. Simple as.

Anyway this thread is ridiculous, I wouldn't have sang the English National Anthem if I was in the house.

Because:

1. I don't know the words
2. I'm not English

Just like I wouldn't expect an English person to know/sing the Irish National Anthem if they were on an Irish TV Show.

I think this is fair, i wouldn't sing it and i am english because i don't agree with the words as relevant to england anymore.

BUT it is BB lol we won't solve political issues here as some other people are bringing into this thread. Trust the irish and their stupid conflict/war to bring the mood down lol.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Smiddy

Ireland isn't part of the UK. UK Big Brother has Irish people in it because they hold auditions in Dublin. Simple as.

Anyway this thread is ridiculous, I wouldn't have sang the English National Anthem if I was in the house.

Because:

1. I don't know the words
2. I'm not English

Just like I wouldn't expect an English person to know/sing the Irish National Anthem if they were on an Irish TV Show.

Ah sorry - I don't know the correct term for Scotland, Ireland, Wales and Engerland any more - I was just trying to say it is nor engerlish big brother