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Old 03-09-2010, 05:46 PM #76
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Isn't there a belief that when God threw Lucifer from heaven to the earth, that was at the time when Dinosaurs roamed the earth? Lucifer was exiled from heaven before man was created.
Here you may be getting into mythology rather than the Bible, and if I recall the belief outside of the Bible was that there was a rebellion in Heaven when Satan tried to claim God's throne, which led to an angelic war, when one third of the angels sided with Satan and were cast down.

The only oblique reference in the Bible to this is in 2 Peter 2:4 where it referred to angels that had sinned.

When that happened in relation to the creation account is not certain.
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Well it's hardly religions fault that they were ignorant of evolution, everyone was until 150 years ago. It is just believed that religion and evolution are not incompatible, and there was therefore no issue with adjusting their beliefs to accomodate for the discovery.
so basically they were just making it up and selling it as the truth but in fact they hadn't a clue what they were talking about?
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so basically they were just making it up and selling it as the truth but in fact they hadn't a clue what they were talking about?
They were saying what they thought had happened, using the knowledge available to them at the time. They thought that what was in the Bible about making the universe in 6 literal days must be true, as they knew no better. Once evolution came to light, they realised this may be incorrect and adjusted their beliefs accordingly, so that a lot of Christians do not believe the 6 days are literal, and that they are metaphorically referring to 6 long periods of time
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when the day finally comes & the computers wipe out the human race altogether & take over (the day that they will refer to as the 'great adjustment') we will know THEN.
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They were saying what they thought had happened, using the knowledge available to them at the time. They thought that what was in the Bible about making the universe in 6 literal days must be true, as they knew no better. Once evolution came to light, they realised this may be incorrect and adjusted their beliefs accordingly, so that a lot of Christians do not believe the 6 days are literal, and that they are metaphorically referring to 6 long periods of time
which is why I believe people should not follow organised religions as it is only what man thinks might have happened, when in reality they know nothing. I can't understand why we can't all just try and be good people and that's that!
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They were saying what they thought had happened, using the knowledge available to them at the time. They thought that what was in the Bible about making the universe in 6 literal days must be true, as they knew no better. Once evolution came to light, they realised this may be incorrect and adjusted their beliefs accordingly, so that a lot of Christians do not believe the 6 days are literal, and that they are metaphorically referring to 6 long periods of time
6 days, 6 years or 6 decades.. I still cannot accept that some greater being created a man and a woman, and the world and night and day. It's just ludicrous to me that people can accept that!
I can appreciate that people do believe this stuff though, and as long as they don't preach it to me then so be it.
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but if there is no god wouldnt we be able to live forever?
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well why cant we live forever if theres no god? thats what definetly makes me think there is a god.
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well why cant we live forever if theres no god? thats what definetly makes me think there is a god.
Do you mean that the god you believe in lives forever and he/she doesn't allow people to do that?
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well why cant we live forever if theres no god? thats what definetly makes me think there is a god.
Because as we get older our organs tire and eventually stop working. Surely it would be more logical to live forever if God existed?
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well why cant we live forever if theres no god? thats what definetly makes me think there is a god.
This makes no sense, surely it's more likely we would live forever if there was a God, not if there wasnt. I really dont see your argument here
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This makes no sense, surely it's more likely we would live forever if there was a God, not if there wasnt. I really dont see your argument here
He's a troll mate. Best to ignore it.
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He's a troll mate. Best to ignore it.
I dunno, he seems quite genuine with his posts, I think he may just be a bit dim.
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