[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

That isn't actually true:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...02/comment.usa

Of course, they were misquoted. Nothing aggressive or unreasonable about them. Is there.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of course, they were misquoted. Nothing aggressive or unreasonable about them. Is there.

I'm sorry but whatever you think about the Iranian regime Ahmedinejad did not say he wanted Israel "wiped off the map" and that is a matter of fact as attested to by numerous journalists, commentators and speakers of Farsi, including the deputy Prime Minister of Israel

[fruit_cake]

I'm no expert on Iran but I was talking to a lady who worked in B&Q the other day who had come from Iran and she was telling me that the differences between rich and poor were absolultely desperate, very similar to the feudal societies in Britain in the dark ages. One person owning all the wealth living in a castle and the rest starving to death.

Moreover, the man on your news clip there Arista for want of a better analogy reminds me of the defence secretary in Independance day, chomping at the bit to test out his super duper new toy in this case Nukes.

Maybe if the ordinary people of Iran had some kind of future to look forward too, deranged nuts like Mr Ahmedianajad or however you spell it, and his dream of wiping Israel out would not be listened quite as carefully.

They have so little the only thing they seem to have is hatred.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

I'm no expert on Iran but I was talking to a lady who worked in B&Q the other day who had come from Iran and she was telling me that the differences between rich and poor were absolultely desperate, very similar to the feudal societies in Britain in the dark ages. One person owning all the wealth living in a castle and the rest starving to death.

Moreover, the man on your news clip there Arista for want of a better analogy reminds me of the defence secretary in Independance day, chomping at the bit to test out his super duper new toy in this case Nukes.

Maybe if the ordinary people of Iran had some kind of future to look forward too, deranged nuts like Mr Ahmedianajad or however you spell it, and his dream of wiping Israel out would not be listened quite as carefully.

They have so little the only thing they seem to have is hatred.

over 60% of graduates in Iran are women. The perception is nothing like the reality. iran has got a phenomenally rich and ancient past. the fact the rich poor divide has grown so massively is as much to do with us as them. we hand pick dictators, billionaire oil arabs, we sell the weapons to all their near neighbours and start illegal wars in their neighbouring countries. we supply weapons to both sides and pass misinformation. we need to take a look at ourselves before labelling other nations

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by the truth

over 60% of graduates in Iran are women. The perception is nothing like the reality. iran has got a phenomenally rich and ancient past. the fact the rich poor divide has grown so massively is as much to do with us as them. we hand pick dictators, billionaire oil arabs, we sell the weapons to all their near neighbours and start illegal wars in their neighbouring countries. we supply weapons to both sides and pass misinformation. we need to take a look at ourselves before labelling other nations

well I don't know about that but 'we'? maybe you did but I know I certainly didn't do any of those things that you describe there truth. It seems to me that there lies part of the problem, people wanting to 'align' themselves with nation states and using plural pronouns to describe individual persons actions.

[lostalex]

just out of curiosity, do you also believe that when Ahmedinejad said that the holocaust was exaggerated and that 6 million jews did NOT die in ww2, and is just a lie told to justify israel? and when asked about the state oppression of gay people in Iran "that is not a problem we have in Iran"?

Was he also misquoted then?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

just out of curiosity, do you also believe that when Ahmedinejad said that the holocaust was exaggerated and that 6 million jews did NOT die in ww2, and is just a lie told to justify israel? and when asked about the state oppression of gay people in Iran "that is not a problem we have in Iran"?

Was he also misquoted then?

If you read what I actually said I think holocause denial is a crime. Although again Id question the voracity and honesty of those who interpret and translate hiw words from iranian into english, as they have lied and exaggerated his words before. however, even if he does believe homosexuality is a problem, which I do not. that is not reason enough to drop a nuclear bomb on him and his country. I think youd agree?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

If you read what I actually said I think holocause denial is a crime. Although again Id question the voracity and honesty of those who interpret and translate hiw words from iranian into english, as they have lied and exaggerated his words before. however, even if he does believe homosexuality is a problem, which I do not. that is not reason enough to drop a nuclear bomb on him and his country. I think youd agree?

You keep on saying, dropping nuclear bombs, like you're genuinely worried that Israel is gonna drop a nuke on Iran....

BUt you think it's ridiculous for Israel to be worried about Iran dropping a nuke on them?

you don't see how that's hypocritical?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

You keep on saying, dropping nuclear bombs, like you're genuinely worried that Israel is gonna drop a nuke on Iran....

BUt you think it's ridiculous for Israel to be worried about Iran dropping a nuke on them?

you don't see how that's hypocritical?

no. israel has loads of nuclear bombs and has threatened in recent days to attack iran. iran has none and has not directly threatened to bomb israel. israles words and actions have been far more extreme already and they have the weaponry and the american support to create world war 3.

as for deciding some iranian leaders views of homosexuality is enough to warraqnt bombing a nation of 100 million people, thats frighteningly insane. im amazed you follow this far right wing brainwash agenda. you are aware the radical right do not give a stuff about gay peoples rights? not to mention health care and opportunity for the poor, sick and disabled?

if you judge the iranian leader simply by some alleged translated words about his opinions on homosexuality so harshly and think he should be bombed because of them. shouldnt you judge everyone by the same standards?

hows about john mccain 2008 , singing bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb iran?
Would that have justified america being attacked?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

no. israel has loads of nuclear bombs and has threatened in recent days to attack iran. iran has none and has not directly threatened to bomb israel. israles words and actions have been far more extreme already and they have the weaponry and the american support to create world war 3.

as for deciding some iranian leaders views of homosexuality is enough to warraqnt bombing a nation of 100 million people, thats frighteningly insane. im amazed you follow this far right wing brainwash agenda. you are aware the radical right do not give a stuff about gay peoples rights? not to mention health care and opportunity for the poor, sick and disabled?

if you judge the iranian leader simply by some alleged translated words about his opinions on homosexuality so harshly and think he should be bombed because of them. shouldnt you judge everyone by the same standards?

hows about john mccain 2008 , singing bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb iran?
Would that have justified america being attacked?

I never said anything about Israel using nukes on Iran, and i don't think anyone has, i don't think anyone thinks Israel would use nukes on Iran..

and i also never said anything about bombing Iran because of their government policy of murdering homosexuals/. You are making things up.

You really need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

you havn't responded directly to anything i've said, and instead you'd just gone on these paragraph long rants about how everyone is out to get iran, and rich people have a conspiracy, blah blah, nothing at ALL to do with anything i've said.

You have very poor communication skills.

[arista]

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