[arista]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

So it's even less of a news story than I thought it was....

A few British Police officers have gone to the Algarve ???

OMG....how is this "Breaking News"....????

Its Not
used as a fake Filler


Nothing new in this murder case

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Originally Posted by arista

Its Not
used as a fake Filler


Nothing new in this murder case

New today from PORTUGUESE press ........ http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/201...ned-payne.html

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

New today from PORTUGUESE press ........ http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/201...ned-payne.html

mmm after reading some stuff about that guy the last time we were talking about this, I've always thought that somehow he was involved

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

mmm after reading some stuff about that guy the last time we were talking about this, I've always thought that somehow he was involved

Hes a dirty gettt Niamh ,did you read Gaspar Statements I posted about him and Gerry ?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hes a dirty gettt Niamh ,did you read Gaspar Statements I posted about him and Gerry ?

Yes i think so, is that by the woman who'd been on holiday the year or two beforehand?

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http://thegaspersstatement.blogspot.co.uk/ You DO NOT let another man bathe your children ,David Payne bathed the little girls on the PDL trip and the trip the Gaspars went on,My opinion on this is as Maddie got older and neared school age they were scared she would talk about what went on

[arista]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

New today from PORTUGUESE press ........ http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/201...ned-payne.html

So he killed the girl?

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

http://thegaspersstatement.blogspot.co.uk/ You DO NOT let another man bathe your children ,David Payne bathed the little girls on the PDL trip and the trip the Gaspars went on,My opinion on this is as Maddie got older and neared school age they were scared she would talk about what went on

Yeah, I thought it was a bit weird as well, we would you do that?

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Hes a dirty gettt Niamh ,did you read Gaspar Statements I posted about him and Gerry ?

I read those statements.

I also read the statement by David Payne. One of the most disturbing things about his statement is how he refers to Maddie in the past tense. Like she's no longer alive.

"Mmm..., errr... Madeleine's, errr... a very striking, errr... beautiful child, I'd almost - if I want a better phrase - call her doll-like, you know. She was very, you know, I think, you know, very unique looking child, errr... she'd got very pretty, you know, blonde hair, errr... in a bob, she was quite a petite, errr... child and, you know, she was very bubbly, very, errr... you know, she was a very good child to, to interact with. She was very bright, you could have a lot of fun with Madeleine, errr... and, you know, she, she was, you know, Kate and Gerry's, you know, pride and joy. They'd had a lot of trouble conceiving, you know, with IVF and everything and, you know, Madeleine was their miracle. She was obviously very unique with the fact that she'd got the, you know, the iris defect, errr... but, you know, she was certainly a happy go lucky child, you know, she was, she would interact with the other children very well, as I said on the other, earlier recording, you know, she played very happily with Lily and, you know, indeed the other children. She was, you know, very... she is a very beautiful child and good fun."

(...)

"You know, I, you know, a fact I've come across already you know, she was a... she's a very bright child, you know, she wouldn't be the kind of mischievous child who, you know, and just try and get out of the flat and, you know, get up to mischief and that, you know, there's fun in all children but she certainly wasn't that kind of child. She was very bright."

[Kizzy]

I know it sounds daft to say I got a 'feeling' after reading the transcript of the interviews in the last debate, but looking at them again I still think there's something a bit odd about him.

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Originally Posted by arista

So he killed the girl?

Not said that Girth, but if you believe the police statements given by the group,he was the last person apart from Kate,Gerry who saw Maddie alive ,he also on the night they raised the alarm rang Scotland Yard child protection services in a 100 second phone call at just gone 11 that night, he has never said why he rang

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

I know it sounds daft to say I got a 'feeling' after reading the transcript of the interviews in the last debate, but looking at them again I still think there's something a bit odd about him.

What i find odd Kizzy is they made Maddie a ward of court within DAYS of her "going missing " by her being a ward of court, Mc do not have to allow police to see Maddies medical records, or Kates,Gerrys ,what is in them medical records they would go to the length of handing their child over to the courts to prevent being shown ?

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Yvonne Martin (Social worker) police statement



Yvonne Martin statement 13/06

"Taking advantage of the information that she had heard on the news, she began questioning the couple about how often they had checked on the children, obtaining the reply that people would go to see them every HOUR"

"After having obtained the verbal response from Gerry, the mother, Kate, questioned what she was doing asking these questions which should be asked by the police, who were already on the scene in large numbers searching for her daughter, who had been taken by a COUPLE"

"Gerry took her documents and showed them to the third person and told him that they were authentic and were certified by the police."

HOW DID DP KNOW THEY WERE AUTHENTIC?

"She describes him as tall man, height about 1,80 m, about 35 years old, of normal physical complexion, with short, dark hair, with a round face and with a scar on the left side of his face running from the eyebrow to the check. He uses graduated glasses of small dimension with rectangular lenses. He spoke with a southern English accent and was wearing CREAM coloured trousers and a dark polo shirt"

STATEMENT 14/11

"She first found them aggressive and their reaction after she showed Madeleine's parents her credentials, also seemed strange to her. Afterwards she was informed that there were no signs of a break-in in the apartment. Knowing that they are doctors she found it absolutely abnormal that they left their children alone at home. Associating all of this with her professional experience, which tells her that in 99.99 % of missing children cases, the parents or other family members are involved, she felt it was her duty to inform the police of this. "

"She did this anonymously because she did not want to be bothered by the media. But she also states that according to what she remembers, when she met with Madeleine's parents, David Payne, who was with them, was wearing a dark polo shirt, blue or black coloured, cream coloured long trousers, of linen or cotton, and dark shoes (sandal/slipper type without a back buckle/catch). In her opinion, this clothing MATCHES PERFECTLY with the clothing the Police described the man (carrying the child) to be wearing at the time. All these coincidences made the witness think that the parents and their friends could possibly be involved in the disappearance of the child. "

[Vicky.]

Intetesting about payne being a person of interest according to the portuguese press. Amazing the difference between theirs and ours eh..

[Jezzy]

Payne terrifies me.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I think this is more red herrings , it will turn out to be another fruitless lead. This adds oxygen to the kidnap story and keeps the bulk of the public thinking along those lines.

I think her parents know far more than they will ever tell and welcome baseless stories like these.

I hope she is alive but fear she died by accident that night and the rest of this is a panic reaction that has resulted in this abduction story.

Very sadly because this is an awful case,I think I have to agree with all you say above Nedusa, I would love to think it was wrong but this incident has stunk for me all though.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Very sadly because this is an awful case,I think I have to agree with all you say above Nedusa, I would love to think it was wrong but this incident has stunk for me all though.

What puzzles me as well is why nobody in the police and security services don't push the McCanns more on this area, everyone in the mainstream press just keep repeating the same kidnap theory...???

[Z]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

What puzzles me as well is why nobody in the police and security services don't push the McCanns more on this area, everyone in the mainstream press just keep repeating the same kidnap theory...???

That really puzzles me as well. Obviously we're not privy to the ins and outs of the investigation because some things have to stay quiet but I just find it a bit ridiculous that they've more or less been shielded from it because they've built up this huge press campaign.

[Kizzy]

If Payne is in a high profile peadophile ring he will be have been afforded protection to buy his silence, that's my theory.

[Vicky.]

Meanwhile...McCanns do NOT seem to be co-operating with scotland yard at all by the looks of their site.

http://www.findmadeleine.com/campaig...ed_people.html

'New' e-fits (that look quite like Gerry funnily enough) ignored, old tanerman still main suspect, despite being pretty much disregarded by Redwood after a Ł10m+ investigation...

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

If Payne is in a high profile peadophile ring he will be have been afforded protection to buy his silence, that's my theory.

IMO Payne and Gerry both in this paedo ring

[Kizzy]

BREAKING NEWS: Police investigate claims five more British girls have been sexually assaulted in Algarve by lone intruder as they hunt for 'smelly, pot bellied' Madeleine McCann suspect
Detectives set to begin investigation in Portugal following breakthroughs
Officer is 'cautiously optimistic' that police from both nations will act soon
British police waiting for approval for operation from Portugal authorities
A 10-year-old girl was sexually assaulted in same are as Maddie in 2005
There are now potentially 18 linked cases, officers said
Police took 500 calls following appeal about suspect last month

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-suspect.html

[Z]

Reading about the Marc Dutroux case makes you realise that there are a lot of high profile people willing to cover up sex crimes for unsavoury reasons.

[arista]

A local.

Of course they need to cross him off the list.

[Nedusa]

The Madeleine McCann news story.......The story that keeps giving ?