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Old 07-07-2014, 07:40 PM #76
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I guess she doesn't want to get on with her because she doesn't like her? That's the impression I get anyway.....although the chants may change that lol
Oh yeah, I wouldn't expect her to want to get on with her but make her problems known. When you're in a bubble like Big Brother you want things to be as easy as possible.

But since when is life in Big Brother ever easy?
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But she and Danielle were pretending to be friends to Kim and slagging her off behind her back so both are back stabbers.
They were actually friends with Kim until she disappeared up Helens arse
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Oh yeah, I wouldn't expect her to want to get on with her but make her problems known. When you're in a bubble like Big Brother you want things to be as easy as possible.

But since when is life in Big Brother ever easy?
I know, I actually couldn't think of anything worse than being a HM
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They were actually friends with Kim until she disappeared up Helens arse
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They were actually friends with Kim until she disappeared up Helens arse
She still tried to involve them both and be their friends though, somebody getting a new friend doesn't normally cause friends to become spiteful bitches.

Also still makes them two faced or Ashleigh or Danielle could have just told Kim they felt she had drifted but they were both a pair of arseholes and just slated her behind her back didn't they.
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So,you'de rather have someone who slates you behind your back? that's good for you,but give me a head to head anyday.
I absolutely would prefer it to a screeching witch screaming insults about my looks and personality into my face.
Are you forgetting that Helen also slagged people off behind their backs (Jale, Chris, Christopher) mocking them and calling them nasty names while sitting with her audience of laughing cronies..
Ashleigh does NOT do that. She dislikes Helen for the same reason most of us do, and talks about her with a friend. Massive difference.

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Ashleigh does NOT do that. She dislikes Helen for the same reason most of us do, and talks about her with a friend. Massive difference.
Yes, Ashleigh does actually.
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Yes, Ashleigh does actually.
She sits with a group of cronies and calls people names (slug etc) and makes derogatory comments about their looks while they laugh their asses off and egg her on? When was this?
I have only seen Ashleigh bitching with her friend in private about what a nasty vile cow Helen is, which is nothing but the honest truth.
Funny how nobody minds Danielle bitching about Helen.
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She sits with a group of cronies and calls people names (slug etc) and makes derogatory comments about their looks while they laugh their asses off and egg her on? When was this?
I have only seen Ashleigh bitching with her friend in private about what a nasty vile cow Helen is, which is nothing but the honest truth.
Funny how nobody minds Danielle bitching about Helen.
So they both do the same thing then, it's just Helen does it with a bigger group of people.

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a) Helen knows Ashleigh doesn't like her, not via Ashleigh herself doing anything but by Chinese whispers going through the house. Through Kimberley and Jale and a few others flitting between groups. They've never actually acknowledged anything between the two of them.
I think Ashleigh’s body language when around Helen was more than enough for Helen to know she doesn’t like her. I’m not in there and I can see it. I wonder why Helen doesn’t pick on Ashleigh when she knows she doesn’t like her? Hmmmm……

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b) I never said she should have a confrontation. I was responding to your insinuation that Helen wouldn't dare confront Ashleigh because she knows Ashleigh would tear into her or that Ashleigh doesn't confront her because she's mature and intelligent. Both incorrect.
Funnily enough, I think both your points are incorrect –and I didn’t say Ashleigh would tear into her. I said she knows Ashleigh would stand up to her – there is a difference.

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Ashleigh venting to Danielle is exactly what I said. Both she and Helen gather up hatred for people, Helen's flies out and straight into the person it's directed at when she has alcohol, in Ashleigh's case it causes the constant comments/bitching with Danielle to express herself. Neither is a mature option nor intelligent option.
It is both intelligent and mature (and smart) to avoid any sort of confrontation whatsoever with that vile woman.
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So they both do the same thing then, it's just Helen does it with a bigger group of people.

Brilliant.
Don't pretend you don't see the difference. You aren't stupid.
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Don't pretend you don't see the difference. You aren't stupid.
She sits with a group of cronies and calls people names (slug etc) and makes derogatory comments about their looks while they laugh their asses off and egg her on? When was this?
I have only seen Ashleigh bitching with her friend in private about what a nasty vile cow Helen is

Both doing the exact same thing, both as bad as each other; except Helen is just being sarcastic. Ashleigh is just being a pure bitch.
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I think Ashleigh’s body language when around Helen was more than enough for Helen to know she doesn’t like her. I’m not in there and I can see it. I wonder why Helen doesn’t pick on Ashleigh when she knows she doesn’t like her? Hmmmm……

Funnily enough, I think both your points are incorrect –and I didn’t say Ashleigh would tear into her. I said she knows Ashleigh would stand up to her – there is a difference.

It is both intelligent and mature (and smart) to avoid any sort of confrontation whatsoever with that vile woman.
Tension between the two of them and "body language" is nothing to do with Ashleigh making her problems known. The whole house no she doesn't like them because she made no effort and would isolate herself in the bedroom or the pod. That's different. Ashleigh even admitted she made no effort to Helen and shut herself off but said she's been making more of an effort over the last week.

Knowing Ashleigh would stand up to her is irrelevant, it hasn't stopped Helen lashing out at others. She knows Christopher doesn't sit back and take it, he rabbits on and explains his corner; she knows Matthew argues back yet she still confronted him a second time.

It is mature and intelligent to avoid petty arguments. But replacing it with petty bitching and gossiping is not.
You keep finding ways to explain how your favourite is better than the housemate you hate whilst ignoring the huge similarities between them.

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Don't pretend you don't see the difference. You aren't stupid.
Ashleigh bitches to Danielle but Helen bitches to about 4 people.

The only difference is the size of the group.
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She sits with a group of cronies and calls people names (slug etc) and makes derogatory comments about their looks while they laugh their asses off and egg her on? When was this?
I have only seen Ashleigh bitching with her friend in private about what a nasty vile cow Helen is

Both doing the exact same thing, both as bad as each other; except Helen is just being sarcastic. Ashleigh is just being a pure bitch.
So you really can't see the difference? Oh dear.
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So you really can't see the difference? Oh dear.
No, how about you point it out to me?
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Ashleigh bitches to Danielle but Helen bitches to about 4 people.

The only difference is the size of the group.
Do you really believe that Helen sitting with her group of lads, mocking and calling Jale, Christopher and Chris nasty names to show off and get laughs from her cronies is the same as Ashleigh bitching in private (not for laughs) to a friend about the person who calls people nasty, derogatory names?

Really?

Helen got a warning, part of the warning was for calling people insulting, nasty names. Did you forget about that?
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No, how about you point it out to me?
See my post above. I try to help people out when I can.
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See my post above. I try to help people out when I can.
I'm genuinely not getting it, I want you to tell me in plain english the point you're making
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I'm genuinely not getting it, I want you to tell me in plain english the point you're making
If you read my reply to Marsh and don't get it then I can't help you out any more than I have.

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Do you really believe that Helen sitting with her group of lads, mocking and calling Jale, Christopher and Chris nasty names to show off and get laughs from her cronies is the same as Ashleigh bitching in private (not for laughs) to a friend about the person who calls people nasty, derogatory names?

Really?

Helen got a warning, part of the warning was for calling people insulting, nasty names. Did you forget about that?
Apart from the group size there is absolutely no difference, and if anything Ashleigh looks worse.
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If you read my reply to Marsh and don't get it then I can't help you out any more than I have.
Yea... for future reference, in poker that is known as calling someones bluff
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Do you really believe that Helen sitting with her group of lads, mocking and calling Jale, Christopher and Chris nasty names to show off and get laughs from her cronies is the same as Ashleigh bitching in private (not for laughs) to a friend about the person who calls people nasty, derogatory names?

Really?

Helen got a warning, part of the warning was for calling people insulting, nasty names. Did you forget about that?
I didn't forget about anything. You seem under the impression that I'm trying to justify Helen's actions, I'm not, I'm pointing out your failures in trying to justify Ashleigh's.

Helen being worse doesn't absolve Ashleigh of anything.

She's a bitch who chuckles with Danielle whilst slagging others off, and did it with Toya at times. Bitchy, miserable little girl.

The only difference between her and Helen is Helen is more brazen and has the mouth to make it more public.

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Well we'll all just have to agree to disagree then. You won't change your mind and I won't change mine.
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