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Goading isn't very constructive, the support Trump gets is on the wane in the US thankfully, and thankfully that's where it counts.
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I agree with Donald on this 100%
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This poll is one of the only ones that has been done. All the others also indicate low percentages in support of ISIS.
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Agree Dezzy the paranoia is tangible at the moment, building a pressure cooker environment isn't a good idea shut the guy off ffs! Just because he has a few dollars he's allowed to spout whatever the hell he likes.
What the hell is he trying to do?....
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Agree Dezzy the paranoia is tangible at the moment, building a pressure cooker environment isn't a good idea shut the guy off ffs! Just because he has a few dollars he's allowed to spout whatever the hell he likes.
What the hell is he trying to do?....
Not sure. The polls indicate the race is now quite close and I think anyone who is gonna vote for Trump is probably already supporting him, so not sure how he thinks he's gonna pick up votes with these comments. I dont know that he's trying to do at all.
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This is really interesting.
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donald trump: *says something controversial for attention*

*people then give him the attention*

*donald trump cackles in his chair because you've just done what he wanted you to do- get you talking about him and maybe attract some supporters*
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donald trump: *says something controversial for attention*

*people then give him the attention*

*donald trump cackles in his chair because you've just done what he wanted you to do- get you talking about him and maybe attract some supporters*
He's not Katie Hopkins, this is the guy leading the polls to be the Republican candidate for President, he's not going to go away if people stop talking about him
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He's not Katie Hopkins, this is the guy leading the polls to be the Republican candidate for President, he's not going to go away if people stop talking about him
He's totally like Katie Hopkins... He's like Katie Hopkins on steroids.
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He's not Katie Hopkins, this is the guy leading the polls to be the Republican candidate for President, he's not going to go away if people stop talking about him
And I doubt he gives a flying F what the Brits say.
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He's not Katie Hopkins, this is the guy leading the polls to be the Republican candidate for President, he's not going to go away if people stop talking about him
Ha ha - NO he is most certainly not. Trump is NOBODY's fool, and I personally believe that certain people are going to be shocked by the outcome of the actual candidate race.
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THE FAR LEFT ARE just as dangerous as the far right, the only difference is they know how to hide behind each other
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I agree that the far left is just as dangerous as the far right, but America doesn't have a far left party or candidate in their country, you vote for either Tories (Democrats) or BNP (Republicans)
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I agree that the far left is just as dangerous as the far right, but America doesn't have a far left party or candidate in their country, you vote for either Tories (Democrats) or BNP (Republicans)
We have far left groups though, like Occupy and BLM. Also the far left Green party lead by Ralph Nader was a major party in the 2000 election, it actually helped Bush win, which is why no one supports far left parties anymore. everyone on the left was pissed off at the Green party after that debacle.
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We have far left groups though, like Occupy and BLM. Also the far left Green party lead by Ralph Nader was a major party in the 2000 election, it actually helped Bush win, which is why no one supports far left parties anymore. everyone on the left was pissed off at the Green party after that debacle.
That's fair enough, I've never heard of Occupy and BLM, are they really extreme left then?

And tbh if I was American I would be angry at any party that was responsible for George W Bush being President too.
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Seriously there's too many dicks in this world.

Can't we put them all on a deserted Island never to be seen again? Starting with Donald Trump.
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For the record the reason I hardly post on here anymore is that a certain minority of posters are unable to hold a sensible debate turn every thread into a personal slanging match and a large proportion of them hold the most inane, naive ,juvenile views.

They are not living in the real world more like a rosy make believe reality , they espouse liberal claptrap with no real understanding of how things actually are.

So when I give a point of view that is at odds with their viewpoint I am labelled as horribly racist.....really !!!!

****ing grow up....
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For the record the reason I hardly post on here anymore is that a certain minority of posters are unable to hold a sensible debate turn every thread into a personal slanging match and a large proportion of them hold the most inane, naive ,juvenile views.

They are not living in the real world more like a rosy make believe reality , they espouse liberal claptrap with no real understanding of how things actually are.

So when I give a point of view that is at odds with their viewpoint I am labelled as horribly racist.....really !!!!

****ing grow up....
I GENUINELY miss your posts and sadly have to agree with you.
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I GENUINELY miss your posts and sadly have to agree with you.
What are you agreeing is the restricted movement of all Muslims, that is the proposal Nedusa is in agreement with here, have you not just spent the past however many months saying 'I don't mean ALL Muslims'... Now it's shown you are open to a blanket ban!
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What are you agreeing is the restricted movement of all Muslims, that is the proposal Nedusa is in agreement with here, have you not just spent the past however many months saying 'I don't mean ALL Muslims'... Now it's shown you are open to a blanket ban!
Make up your mind.


Look, I took heed of Josy's warning on the Tyson Fury post - which was very fair and very mild, given the toxicity of the thread - so I REALLY do not wish to become embroiled in personal argument on this thread, I really don't.

However - once again - you leave me no choice but to respond to you because -- once again -- you are leaping in, not only presumptiously telling me what I'm doing, but also telling me WHAT to do, when you are --- once again --- categorically, emphatically WRONG on ALL counts.

If only you would learn comprehension then you would not keep leaping in with misrepresentations based on misinterpretations.

NOWHERE in the actual post of Nedusa's which I specifically responded to, does she mention Donald Trump OR the banning of all Muslims. This being the absolute truth - how then how can my SPECIFIC response to that SPECIFIC post MEAN that what I am "agreeing to is the restricted movement of all Muslims" as you so wrongly accuse me of?

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For the record the reason I hardly post on here anymore is that a certain minority of posters are unable to hold a sensible debate turn every thread into a personal slanging match and a large proportion of them hold the most inane, naive ,juvenile views.

They are not living in the real world more like a rosy make believe reality , they espouse liberal claptrap with no real understanding of how things actually are.

So when I give a point of view that is at odds with their viewpoint I am labelled as horribly racist.....really !!!!

****ing grow up...."


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"I GENUINELY miss your posts and sadly have to agree with you."

I was not agreeing with any "restricted movement of all Muslims" whether that may or may not have been "Nedusa's proposal" in any earlier posts - , If I had have been, then I would have purposely responded to THAT particular post IN AGREEMENT of it.

So I think that to anyone with a brain, the above is patently obvious - as is the fact that because I DID NOT respond to such posts at all, let alone IN SUPPORT OF THEM, then it would be indicative of the fact that I DO NOT AGREE with such VIEWS.

No - what I was agreeing with are the general points in that specific post which Nedusa was making about the Serious Debate thread and certain members attitudes on certain subjects - hence my use of the word 'sadly' in "sadly I have to agree with you."

I used the word 'sadly' because the degeneration on Serious Debates to what it was when even I joined DOES personally sadden me, and why would I use such a personal word as 'Sadly' if it had anything to do with Trump or the banning of Muslims in the USA?

NO - you are wrong once again, which makes you once again look foolish, and makes the rest of your post offensive:

"have you not just spent the past however many months saying 'I don't mean ALL Muslims'... Now it's shown you are open to a blanket ban!
Make up your mind."


Last week you were similarly wrong and was proved wrong, but arrogantly refused to apologise to me, so I will not bother asking this time.
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For the record the reason I hardly post on here anymore is that a certain minority of posters are unable to hold a sensible debate turn every thread into a personal slanging match and a large proportion of them hold the most inane, naive ,juvenile views.

They are not living in the real world more like a rosy make believe reality , they espouse liberal claptrap with no real understanding of how things actually are.

So when I give a point of view that is at odds with their viewpoint I am labelled as horribly racist.....really !!!!

****ing grow up....
It isn't liberal claptrap to not demonise millions and millions of people.

If your view aligns with Trumps then you might have to accept that you could be seen as racist, as he is quite clearly very racist.

It's not inane or juvenile to make that correlation Nedusa, how else could you define such an action?
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