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Old 22-02-2016, 02:48 PM #76
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What is the source of these questions?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...se-police.html

Its 48 questions Kate McCann refused to answer when questioned by police soon after Maddy disappeared.
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Its 48 questions Kate McCann refused to answer when questioned by police soon after Maddy disappeared.
Yes but she didn't refuse

She wasadvised by her legal brief not to answer in order not to incriminate herself as she was being accused

Massive difference
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Yes but she didn't refuse

She wasadvised by her legal brief not to answer in order not to incriminate herself as she was being accused

Massive difference
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My thoughts on this are the same as ever;

- I'm 50/50 over whether or not the McCanns played an active role in their daughter's disappearance.

- However I believe they are 100% guilty of causing her death by neglect. Either way, whether she was kidnapped OR died in an accident that they covered up, is irrelevant.

- I do have some sympathy for their situation... but I'm afraid it's minimal, because however you look at it, that little girl is the victim in this story, and what happened to her was entirely avoidable. It's horrendous and completely over-rides their suffering.

- Finally, I don't really understand their response or their situation at all so I struggle to empathise. If it was my daughter, I'd either be turning over every rock in Portugal by hand, or I'd be dead. Quite probably the latter... and that's not an exaggeration.
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My thoughts on this are the same as ever;

- I'm 50/50 over whether or not the McCanns played an active role in their daughter's disappearance.

- However I believe they are 100% guilty of causing her death by neglect. Either way, whether she was kidnapped OR died in an accident that they covered up, is irrelevant.

- I do have some sympathy for their situation... but I'm afraid it's minimal, because however you look at it, that little girl is the victim in this story, and what happened to her was entirely avoidable. It's horrendous and completely over-rides their suffering.

- Finally, I don't really understand their response or their situation at all so I struggle to empathise. If it was my daughter, I'd either be turning over every rock in Portugal by hand, or I'd be dead. Quite probably the latter... and that's not an exaggeration.
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Yes but she didn't refuse

She wasadvised by her legal brief not to answer in order not to incriminate herself as she was being accused

Massive difference
Strange that of the 48 she chose to answer this one...

A Question She Did Answer
- Are you aware that in not answering the questions you are jeopardizing the investigation, which seeks to discover what happened to your daughter?

- “Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks.”
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Yes but she didn't refuse

She wasadvised by her legal brief not to answer in order not to incriminate herself as she was being accused

Massive difference
Do you honestly think a mothers first concern is for her own legal rights when her daughter has been abducted, and every moment lost, the abductor is further away? Sorry, it doesn't add up
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Yes but she didn't refuse

She wasadvised by her legal brief not to answer in order not to incriminate herself as she was being accused

Massive difference
Yes but she did refuse, she took cousel then refused to answer them; its true she was asked those questions after it was made clear she was a suspect. Obviously her legal counsel has her best interests at heart, not Maddys, but looking at some of those questions they are rather innocuous - Whats your medical specialty? Have you ever worked in a Hospital?
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Do you honestly think a mothers first concern is for her own legal rights when her daughter has been abducted, and every moment lost, the abductor is further away? Sorry, it doesn't add up
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Do you honestly think a mothers first concern is for her own legal rights when her daughter has been abducted, and every moment lost, the abductor is further away? Sorry, it doesn't add up
No

This was after when they became suspects and of course you listen to your brief

Sadly most people have no idea what went on, have any idea of the legalities, timescale or circumstances

But why let that spoill things
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My thoughts on this are the same as ever;

- I'm 50/50 over whether or not the McCanns played an active role in their daughter's disappearance.

- However I believe they are 100% guilty of causing her death by neglect. Either way, whether she was kidnapped OR died in an accident that they covered up, is irrelevant.

- I do have some sympathy for their situation... but I'm afraid it's minimal, because however you look at it, that little girl is the victim in this story, and what happened to her was entirely avoidable. It's horrendous and completely over-rides their suffering.

- Finally, I don't really understand their response or their situation at all so I struggle to empathise. If it was my daughter, I'd either be turning over every rock in Portugal by hand, or I'd be dead. Quite probably the latter... and that's not an exaggeration.
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This was after when they became suspects and of course you listen to your brief

Sadly most people have no idea what went on, have any idea of the legalities, timescale or circumstances

But why let that spoill things
She was less than helpful to the authorities right from the moment they were first involved
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This was after when they became suspects and of course you listen to your brief

Sadly most people have no idea what went on, have any idea of the legalities, timescale or circumstances

But why let that spoill things
Exactly, but surely any detail, even the most insignificant thing, could help the authorities?
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Whether your a suspect or not firstly you want to make sure your daughter is alive and safe and secondly clear your name so refusing to answer questions on the advise of your breif makes no sense whatsoever
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Do you honestly think a mothers first concern is for her own legal rights when her daughter has been abducted, and every moment lost, the abductor is further away? Sorry, it doesn't add up
Really good point.
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My thoughts on this are the same as ever;

- I'm 50/50 over whether or not the McCanns played an active role in their daughter's disappearance.

- However I believe they are 100% guilty of causing her death by neglect. Either way, whether she was kidnapped OR died in an accident that they covered up, is irrelevant.

- I do have some sympathy for their situation... but I'm afraid it's minimal, because however you look at it, that little girl is the victim in this story, and what happened to her was entirely avoidable. It's horrendous and completely over-rides their suffering.

- Finally, I don't really understand their response or their situation at all so I struggle to empathise. If it was my daughter, I'd either be turning over every rock in Portugal by hand, or I'd be dead. Quite probably the latter... and that's not an exaggeration.
Great post.
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SO when you were accused of a serious crime did you ignore your legal team

Tell us what happened next?



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If my daughter was missing and presumed to be either already dead or at the very least in extreme danger, I literally wouldn't care about anything. At all. Least of all having a legal team, or taking their advice.
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Why would you want to incriminate yourself by refusing to answer important questions
actually... refusing to answer questions under a lawyers advice is the exact opposite of incriminating yourself
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If my daughter was missing and presumed to be either already dead or at the very least in extreme danger, I literally wouldn't care about anything. At all. Least of all having a legal team, or taking their advice.
anecdotal wishful thinking is just that

you have no idea what you would have done, you may think you would do x and y but do not crucify a family based on "well i know what i would have done"


it did not happen to you thankfully and you have no bloody idea
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actually... refusing to answer questions under a lawyers advice is the exact opposite of incriminating yourself
But it makes you look more suspicious which will keep you as a suspect right?
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She was doing what every person does in that situation, listens to her expert legal team


sorry is this some new concept for people on tibb?



Maybe Girth you can furnish the thread with examples of where joe public ignore their legal team to their great benefit in situations like this?

Also can you link to the interview with the police and the interview with kate where she explains her actions
Gerry was also in the interview. Strange for suspects to be interviewed together.

Dont know what you're on about in the 2nd half. Why do I need to give other examples? We're talking about the McCanns in a thread you started
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But it makes you look more suspicious which will keep you as a suspect right?
no its standard procedure, the Portuguese police are trying with their questions to incriminate - these are not innocent questions they are leading questions designed to get a conviction

this is why you call a lawyer
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no its standard procedure, the Portuguese police are trying with their questions to incriminate - these are not innocent questions they are leading questions designed to get a conviction

this is why you call a lawyer
Leading questions like - Whats your medical specialty?
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Leading questions like - Whats your medical specialty?
that is a equation but it was not the only one, it leads into other questions that we are not privvy to



do you seriously think that this was all that they were asked, its ridiculous to try and make a judgement based on newspaper articles?

its stupidity
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