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Maru · 02-11-2016, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ohhh you meant the member whos post had been removed would get a message? I read this as everytime a message was deleted or a thread moved or whatever everyone would get a message

I always try to leave an edit note if I edit posts. And I tend to favour editing over deletions too. But when faced with a thread with 50 posts that are just bollocks arguments and sniping..much easier to delete in one go, which includes any posts quoting the argument. Which tends to then lead to 'why was my post deleted, I only said X' which starts it all up again thus making the deletions a bit pointless, which is why we delete posts of that nature too.

Having said this, a fair few members prefer their posts to be deleted rather than edited. I have had hell on in PM many times for editing peoples posts :S

A lot of places do it mainly for deletions, though some do it for threads moved (it depends on the volume). We escalated to infractions using the preexisting forum tools when we couldn't correct the behavior and just followed that system accordingly to bans which often incremented if we felt justified... so the worst offender... 2 day ban... became a 2 week ban... to a one month ban... to permaban... multis = instaban, and extend the original ban if the user went back to abusing other users... we tended to leave it alone though if they were just trying to PM a mod.

I much prefer editing and notations too, as it leaves the pertinent information and allows the thread to continue, but it depends on the forum... these days some people take it very sensitively. (see Rob's post)

I think some people feel like it's a black mark that makes them feel "punished"... but really, if it's done courteously and across the board (edits for everyone

).. then it can go very well and makes the moderation team appear active and engaged... but I would poll users before changing.... maybe test this in S&D first since they seem to want to be so involved in moderation innovation.

Maru · 02-11-2016, 04:26 PM

You have to keep in mind a lot of the forums I've run or have been to are run by computer gurus and people who ran servers, did web development for a living ... so we used witchcraft sometimes when things weren't going our way

Kizzy · 02-11-2016, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Maru

You have to keep in mind a lot of the forums I've run or have been to are run by computer gurus and people who ran servers, did web development for a living ... so we used witchcraft sometimes when things weren't going our way

Don't we all dear?....

Rob! · 02-11-2016, 04:26 PM

If I'm honest I really don't see the point in deleting posts - what are you trying to protect us from? We're all humans at the end of the day, humans argue, disagree and fight. Sometimes it's nasty but attempting to edit what we're saying because you either don't agree with it or it doesn't coincide with some, in a few cases, red tape type rules is parmount to Orwellian type behaviour imo.

Vicky. · 02-11-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

If I'm honest I really don't see the point in deleting posts - what are you trying to protect us from? We're all humans at the end of the day, humans argue, disagree and fight. Sometimes it's nasty but attempting to edit what we're saying because you either don't agree with it or it doesn't coincide with some, in a few cases, red tape type rules is parmount to Orwellian type behaviour imo.

I don't really see it as protecting anyone tbh, unless it is removing bad insults, or racism or something. I see it as keeping threads readable. I swear if you could see some threads with the vast amount of deleted posts restored you would see what I mean. Nearly every SD thread recently descends into petty sniping which has **** all to do with the topic of the tread.

Mokka · 02-11-2016, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob!

If I'm honest I really don't see the point in deleting posts - what are you trying to protect us from? We're all humans at the end of the day, humans argue, disagree and fight. Sometimes it's nasty but attempting to edit what we're saying because you either don't agree with it or it doesn't coincide with some, in a few cases, red tape type rules is parmount to Orwellian type behaviour imo.

Not a big brother reference about mods on a big brother forum

Maru · 02-11-2016, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mokka

Not a big brother reference about mods on a big brother forum

Crimson Dynamo · 02-11-2016, 04:49 PM

The nights are fair drawing in....

Ashley. · 02-11-2016, 05:49 PM

If your post is deleted without an explanation, ask for an explanation.

Crimson Dynamo · 02-11-2016, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

If your post is deleted without an explanation, ask for an explanation.

How do you monitor what gets deleted?
Do you monitor all your posts and check they are still there?

Ashley. · 02-11-2016, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

How do you monitor what gets deleted?
Do you monitor all your posts and check they are still there?

No. Why would I?

Crimson Dynamo · 02-11-2016, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

No. Why would I?

So if u don't know it's been deleted how can you ask?

Ashley. · 02-11-2016, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So if u don't know it's been deleted how can you ask?

Well in that case, why fuss over a comment you're never going to look at again anyway? Plus by the looks of things, Cherie is well in-the-know that some of her comments have been deleted.

Firewire · 02-11-2016, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashley.

If your post is deleted without an explanation, ask for an explanation.

You get infracted for that

Josy · 02-11-2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Firewire

You get infracted for that

No you don't not if you pm like you are supposed to.

Black Dagger · 02-11-2016, 07:07 PM

Is this forum ****ing serious. I don't know anymore.

Josy · 02-11-2016, 07:22 PM

Jeez I'm still catching up from earlier...

Posts that members have been infracted/warned for are generally deleted because it's mostly either baiting insulting or an offensive post, so to leave that posts on the thread afterward just causes further arguments, thread derailment and more reports to come in for the same thing that's been dealt with.

Other posts that are included in arguments are normally also deleted because again if not it causes further trouble and leaves the thread a mess.

Posts like that won't have a reason provided because fir most people it's obvious and tbh we would also never have enough time to message everyone involved to tell them why thier specific comment was removed so for that reason alone I would say no way to the notification suggestions

Maru · 02-11-2016, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy

Jeez I'm still catching up from earlier...

Posts that members have been infracted/warned for are generally deleted because it's mostly either baiting insulting or an offensive post, so to leave that posts on the thread afterward just causes further arguments, thread derailment and more reports to come in for the same thing that's been dealt with.

Other posts that are included in arguments are normally also deleted because again if not it causes further trouble and leaves the thread a mess.

Posts like that won't have a reason provided because fir most people it's obvious and tbh we would also never have enough time to message everyone involved to tell them why thier specific comment was removed so for that reason alone I would say no way to the notification suggestions

No, that makes sense. For notifications, I was thinking more in the case for single deletions... like when a user posts something very baiting and needs to be removed. Maybe a single post and a reminder to stay within the rules for the general thread for mega deletions... (and a lock if necessary).

It's hard to stay on top of unless you have enough mods. S&D, depending on the time of the day, moves very fast.

Jordan. · 02-11-2016, 08:10 PM

Here for this thread being deleted without explanation.

Jamie89 · 02-11-2016, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan.

Here for this thread being deleted without explanation.

Maru · 02-11-2016, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan.

Here for this thread being deleted without explanation.

Feel free to PM us all when you see that happen, o' sightseer.

See, there's an idea. We should crowd-source our moderation notifications.

James · 02-11-2016, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

If posts are deleted and the reason is not due to an infraction would it be possible that a general comment is made on the thread by the mod who deleted it as to why? It seems to be happening more and more in ...yes ...SD

I have not read this whole thread but if a post gets deleted, posts that quote it or refer to it usually get deleted also.

The quote could be edited out of the following posts but that is too much work.

It can cause problems when mods identify they are the ones who delete things, and also it is usually obvious the reason for the deleted post.