[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Nope. If you like someone like that it's important to discuss it with them first.

[Parmy]

I wonder how much the gutter **** got paid for the pregnancy pics!

[Parmy]

But she did it for his birthday

[jaxie]

It was a betrayal of trust and awful behaviour. She was forcing fatherhood on him and if the relationship hadn't worked he'd have been responsible emotionally and financially for at least 18 years. He had the right to have a say.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It was a betrayal of trust and awful behaviour. She was forcing fatherhood on him and if the relationship hadn't worked he'd have been responsible emotionally and financially for at least 18 years. He had the right to have a say.

Didn't he have that say when he chose not to protect himself but to rely on a new girlfriend of a few months to be responsible, when he was a well-known footballer with quite a bit of money - when does a bit of common sense come into play.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Didn't he have that say when he chose not to protect himself but to rely on a new girlfriend of a few months to be responsible, when he was a well-known footballer with quite a bit of money - when does a bit of common sense come into play.

So he was "asking for it"?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

So he was "asking for it"?

He was a fool and like a lot of men he was happy to leave that up to her, but that was pretty stupid when they had only been together a few months especially when he was rich and famous. Tbh if that is not asking for it I don't know what is.

She was wrong to do that but he made it easy for her because he didn't use his brain.

[the-gaffer]

I was.a bit taken a back when I heard her say it, I guess she's on a public TV show so it becomes a topic for the public, it's not for me are all but if she's happy and her husband was happy then I find it hard to judge, it's not something I'd ever encourage or advise though, she got very lucky that he took the news exactly like she expected him to.

[user104658]

If he thought she was on the pill and wanted to be using contraception then, no two ways about it, it's not great. Even worse would be if he had specifically said that he did NOT want kids.

IF he had previously wanted her to come off it / wanted children with her but she had previously said no, then her thinking is more understandable, as she would just have been assuming that he still wanted that and would be excited when she got pregnant.

However it would probably have been better to at least check that he was still on the same page before assuming and going ahead with it...

[coffee]

This creeped me out. Some people you just can't trust. Both parties should use protection if they care that much, though lmfao

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

if i was straight and my wife stopped taking the pill without me knowing then i would respect that decision(if i ever found). I don't want kids never have but not going to force her to do anything with her body.

Its not forcing her to do anything with her body though? If she doesn't want to take the pill great, but the guy deserves to know this.

I actually can't believe anyone is defending this

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Its not forcing her to do anything with her body though? If she doesn't want to take the pill great, but the guy deserves to know this.

I actually can't believe anyone is defending this

Vicky you should know by now if someone stans them then they can do what they like no matter how immoral or illegal

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Vicky you should know by now if someone stans them then they can do what they like no matter how immoral or illegal

Aint that the truth,but no one else can do the same

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by LukeB

if i was straight and my wife stopped taking the pill without me knowing then i would respect that decision(if i ever found). I don't want kids never have but not going to force her to do anything with her body.

You'd respect her decision to potentially trick you into fathering a child you didn't want to have?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Its not forcing her to do anything with her body though? If she doesn't want to take the pill great, but the guy deserves to know this.

I actually can't believe anyone is defending this

maybe it's the right thing to tell but some people are different with they do things. I feel a woman has also got rights to do what they want with or without telling.

if she really wanted to trick her boyfriend do you really think she would say this on big brother? they hear and see everything and now her boyfriend will know about it. secrets are never a secret on big brother.

Originally Posted by Lostie!

You'd respect her decision to potentially trick you into fathering a child you didn't want to have?

yes,probably won't be happy at first but people have their reasons.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LukeB

maybe it's the right thing to tell but some people are different with they do things. I feel a woman has also got rights to do what they want with or without telling.

if she really wanted to trick her boyfriend do you really think she would say this on big brother? they hear and see everything and now her boyfriend will know about it. secrets are never a secret on big brother.



yes,probably won't be happy at first but people have their reasons.

If a women wants to deceive a man into getting her pregnant they she should have no rights when it comes to child maintenance and stuff like that

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by LukeB

maybe it's the right thing to tell but some people are different with they do things. I feel a woman has also got rights to do what they want with or without telling.

I honestly can't grasp that viewpoint. Putting Nicola's specific situation aside, a woman continuing a sexual relationship with a guy who doesn't want children and believes she is on the pill after she's stopped is a terrible thing to do. She doesn't get extra rights to do that simply for being a woman.

Originally Posted by LukeB

yes,probably won't be happy at first but people have their reasons.

There isn't a reason in the world that justifies that.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I honestly can't grasp that viewpoint. Putting Nicola's specific situation aside, a woman continuing a sexual relationship with a guy who doesn't want children and believes she is on the pill after she's stopped is a terrible thing to do. She doesn't get extra rights to do that simply for being a woman.

There isn't a reason in the world that justifies that.

We don't actually know if he didn't want kids because he seems happy enough with two kids with Nicola. Since this story was about when they met. I didn't say a woman has extra rights because all genders can do what they want with their body. i don't fully agree with it but i would respect their decision. it's not moral at all and i will never do it ofc but i won't judge anyone over it. (well if they did it for benefits reasons then i will judge)

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Since this story was about when they met.

That makes it even worse and almost a form of entrapment.

A couple in a long term marriage is one thing but a new relationship tricking him into pregnancy.

But I imagine it happens a lot with gold digging WAG tramps and horny footballers.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by LukeB

We don't actually know if he didn't want kids because he seems happy enough with two kids with Nicola. Since this story was about when they met. I didn't say a woman has extra rights because all genders can do what they want with their body. i don't fully agree with it but i would respect their decision. it's not moral at all and i will never do it ofc but i won't judge anyone over it. (well if they did it for benefits reasons then i will judge)

Which is why I said putting that specific example aside for the moment since my input was based on the issue in general (although if he wanted kids too then what purpose does pretending to be on the pill serve?). It's not simply a matter of a woman doing what she wants with her body, there's so much more to it than that. Doing what you want with your body and attempting to trick a man into impregnating you are two very different things. Any woman who does that absolutely deserves to be judged for it, and that's getting off lightly.

[power2thepeople]

Originally Posted by LukeB

We don't actually know if he didn't want kids because he seems happy enough with two kids with Nicola. Since this story was about when they met. I didn't say a woman has extra rights because all genders can do what they want with their body. i don't fully agree with it but i would respect their decision. it's not moral at all and i will never do it ofc but i won't judge anyone over it. (well if they did it for benefits reasons then i will judge)

Bracketed sentence at the end....replace with a new WAG with pound signs in her eyes after a month or so...deciding to bring life into the world making her a more permanent WAG or a hefty child maintenance case and that's my standpoint.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by LukeB

maybe it's the right thing to tell but some people are different with they do things. I feel a woman has also got rights to do what they want with or without telling.

if she really wanted to trick her boyfriend do you really think she would say this on big brother? they hear and see everything and now her boyfriend will know about it. secrets are never a secret on big brother.



yes,probably won't be happy at first but people have their reasons.

'If you say it, own it"

Nicolas words, not mine.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by LukeB

if i was straight and my wife stopped taking the pill without me knowing then i would respect that decision(if i ever found). I don't want kids never have but not going to force her to do anything with her body.

That's very naive and thoughtless. You are bringing a child into the world..that's a serious decision and should be discussed and the decision mutual...not one sided.