[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Surely people can see the irony ....

the NRA say guns aren't the issue ... it's blah

those that play video games ..... games are not the issue it's blah

those that soak up horror movies ..... they are not the issue ... its blah

Except NRA are lying.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Except NRA are lying.

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

And they’re capable of doing so because of the ridiculously easy access to guns capable of killing multiple people in the space of 5 or 10 minutes

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

Not all mass shooters have facial hair, but some do. We can play this game right down to underwear and socks if we want to.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

So all those things could contribute. ... except right wing rhetoric of course? That definately couldn't? . It would be ridiculous to suggest that? :/

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

not all people that own guns go on mass shootings
not all people that play video games go on mass shootings
not all people who watch horror films go on mass shootings


but some do

Not all people who eat cheese become astronauts
Not all people who wear socks become astronauts
Not all people who have a nose become astronauts


but some do

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Surely people can see the irony ....

the NRA say guns aren't the issue ... it's blah

those that play video games ..... games are not the issue it's blah

those that soak up horror movies ..... they are not the issue ... its blah

That's false equivalence; you're equating an organisation that pays politicians to allow them to sell as many guns for as much money as possible, regardless of what the citizenry wants, to gamers and movie watchers. That's not irony, it's silliness.

[Twosugars]

Republican crazies are coming out with their own theories

A Republican state representative in Ohio who blamed “homosexual marriage” and “recreational marijuana” – along with many of Donald Trump’s favourite targets – for gun massacres is facing calls from her own party to resign.

In a Facebook post, Candice Keller, who represents a conservative district near Dayton, where nine people were killed early on Sunday, mused about the causes of mass shootings including: family breakdown and same sex marriage, open borders, sportsmen who disrespect the flag and national anthem, the Democratic-controlled House of Representatives, a godless culture, and liberal “snowflakes”.

The Guardian

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Republican crazies are coming out with their own theories


The Guardian

I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

The world according to Charles Murray. ..

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The world according to Charles Murray. ..

Never heard of him.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Never heard of him.

Google is your friend.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I mean, technically most shooters do come from single parent families, right? Family and community are important for everyone, let alone raising children.

I don't think "godlessness" is a problem per say, and there's been no studies either way to show gay couples are ineffective as parents - two parents are better than one.

Yes the evil single parents....

[Twosugars]

Perhaps now that the stable genius has spoken, and we know he knows the best words, the admin and mods here would consider a quarantine on the video games subforum?
It may reassure our trump supporting members that say Sullen Girl and Toy Soldier are not gonna detonate a nail bomb on the forum?

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

“Mental illness and hatred pull the trigger, not the gun,” he said.




President Donald Trump condemned white supremacy on Monday, calling for
Americans to unite around several proposals to help identify and prevent mass
shootings.


“In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white
supremacy,” Trump said. “These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate
has no place in America, hatred warps the mind, ravages the heart and
devours the soul.”


The president signaled support for stronger laws regulating the Internet,
social media, and violent video games and supported the concept of improved
mental health and “red flag” laws, allowing relatives to recommend court-
ordered seizures of their firearms.


We must recognize that the Internet has provided a dangerous avenue to
radicalize disturbed minds and perform demented acts,” he said. “We must
shine a light on the dark recesses of the Internet and stop mass murders
before they start.”


Social media, he said, was an “evil contagion” for hatred.


The president also blamed violent and “gruesome and grisly” video games
for contributing to the shootings.


“It is too easy today for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture
that celebrates violence,” he said. “We must stop or substantially reduce this
and it has to begin immediately.”


Trump also called for stronger mental health laws that would help “better
identify” mentally disturbed individuals capable of mass shootings.


He proposed that new laws could ensure that individuals suffering from mental
health could “not only get treatment but when necessary, involuntary
confinement.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...olitics-latest
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ass-shootings/

Yes CNNHD last night had Joe Biden on
but he is all over the place on subjects.


At least Trump has changed his views

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes CNNHD last night had Jo Biden on
but he is all over the place on subjects.


At least Trump has changed his views

What views has he changed Arista? Specifically, I mean.

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

What views has he changed Arista? Specifically, I mean.

"Condemn Racism,
Bigotry and
White Supremacy,"

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

"Condemn Racism,
Bigotry and
White Supremacy,"

Ok, we'll see if that's really true, considering he was already back to blaming the media shortly after reading the statement that someone had written for him and bears no resemblance to anything he's ever done. I do like the fact, that by admitting he's changed his views, you're now admitting that Trump promoted white supremacy.

Which does kinda leave me wondering why people on this forum, you included, have gone out of the way to support his agenda?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Ok, we'll see if that's really true, considering he was already back to blaming the media shortly after reading the statement that someone had written for him and bears no resemblance to anything he's ever done. I do like the fact, that by admitting he's changed his views, you're now admitting that Trump promoted white supremacy.

Which does kinda leave me wondering why people on this forum, you included, have gone out of the way to support his agenda?

Its better than nothing


As for USA Nazi Groups
Trump could not stop them
like the President before him.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

"Condemn Racism,
Bigotry and
White Supremacy,"

Let's see what he does about it, shall we

These words were not his, they were written for him

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Let's see what he does about it, shall we

These words were not his, they were written for him

Of Course

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

"condemn racism,
bigotry and
white supremacy,"

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Yes he loves talking before he Fly's off
to meet the Mayor in El Paso. today.

[Twosugars]

Tbh I'm genuinely baffled how otherwise rational people can support this giant orange arsehole...

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Tbh I'm genuinely baffled how otherwise rational people can support this giant orange arsehole...

an arsehole he's not though, he's great at his show the apprentice/celeb apprentice