[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Based on what she said and how she said it, do you disagree with me on that?

Yes.

You are immediately trying to discredit her because you, like so many white people are more uncomfortable with the accusation of racism then you are of racism itself. When a black woman speaks of racism, you accuse her of having a chip on her shoulder when she addressed such attitudes in the clip.

Have some self awareness.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Yes.

You are immediately trying to discredit her because you, like so many white people are more uncomfortable with the accusation of racism then you are of racism itself. When a black woman speaks of racism, you accuse her of having a chip on her shoulder when she addressed such attitudes in the clip.

Have some self awareness.

She didn't have a chip on her shoulder for speaking of racism, but for saying it wasn't her place (as a doctor) to educate white people on the matter. She also couldn't give any examples of racism from the press.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

She didn't have a chip on her shoulder for speaking of racism, but for saying it wasn't her place (as a doctor) to educate white people on the matter. She also couldn't give any examples of racism from the press.

Were you even listening to what she was saying? She addressed this as well.

Why should black people try educating white people when you have proven twice in a matter of minutes that you are not open to learning because you've attacked her and you haven't really paid attention to what she was saying at all.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

She didn't have a chip on her shoulder for speaking of racism, but for saying it wasn't her place (as a doctor) to educate white people on the matter. She also couldn't give any examples of racism from the press.

She previous post.

[GiRTh]

Ollie, I think you are the one who needs to temper their attitude. It seems you cant take her words on face value without adding a spin. What she says is quite easy to understand and you try to rubbish it but instead behave exactly how she says.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Ollie, I think you are the one who needs to temper their attitude. It seems you cant take her words on face value without adding a spin. What she says is quite easy to understand and you try to rubbish it but instead behave exactly how she says.

Phillip said none of the criticism aimed at Meghan was racist. She said it was, but didn't give any examples because "it's not her job" There's nothing to her words beyond the face value, she's not a good advocate for her side of the argument.
I actually agree there's an argument to be made that her ethnicity plays some role in the way the press treated her - I might not agree with the premise, but it's a debate to be had. And debates aren't one side saying "educate yourself."

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Phillip said none of the criticism aimed at Meghan was racist. She said it was, but didn't give any examples because "it's not her job" There's nothing to her words beyond the face value, she's not a good advocate for her side of the argument.
I actually agree there's an argument to be made that her ethnicity plays some role in the way the press treated her - I might not agree with the premise, but it's a debate to be had. And debates aren't one side saying "educate yourself."

She said its not the job of black people etc. She said nothing about herself. Just proves you dont take what she says on face value. Also, you still cant get away from her perceived 'attitude'. You;re proving her right .

[Liam-]

Racism isn’t always slurs and attending rallies, racism can be as subtle as treating a minority differently for doing the same thing as a white person, it’s often simple as a subconscious slant towards favouring white people, all of which the press has done constantly, just because there aren’t articles calling her the n word, doesn’t mean there aren’t racist tendencies in the reporting of Meghan

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Racism isn’t always slurs and attending rallies, racism can be as subtle as treating a minority differently for doing the same thing as a white person, it’s often simple as a subconscious slant towards favouring white people, all of which the press has done constantly, just because there aren’t articles calling her the n word, doesn’t mean there aren’t racist tendencies in the reporting of Meghan

An example of that is the ridiculous comparisons between Kate & Meghan .

The fuss about the wedding flower bouquet, I didn't even know Meghan had the same type of flowers as Kate . Kate got complimented & praised, but when Meghan had the flowers it gave Charlotte allergies allegedly. They make it seem like everything Meghan does is wrong yet everything Kate does is perfect .

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The UK is the least racist country in the world. Good luck moving to LA megz

This statement needs clarification. With about 200 countries in the world how are you sure Uk is the least racist?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

This statement needs clarification. With about 200 countries in the world how are you sure Uk is the least racist?

Minorities are allowed in pubs now, everything is good!

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Minorities are allowed in pubs now, everything is good!

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you know,any better?

I guess actual names

You're the one who made the statement and thus should back it up. I dont need to know or do anything.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If you can't refute it. I can't really help you.

Not up to me to refute.

Can you back the statements up? If not then I suggest you, in future, clarify with 'in my opinion' or some similar statement. For the sake of the debate. You'll know how to word it

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sure Girth see you in the daytime tomorrow for a debate with us all

You too

[Twosugars]

"A debate with us all" ?

A backup is needed? Lol

[Jordan.]

Idk who "us all" is... I'd assume most members don't have the luxury to sit posting throughout the daytime?

[bots]

Those that are Royal Institution traditionalists like Anne is, always find fault when someone that doesnt fit the norm comes in. The same comments were made about Fergie. People even said Harry would be trouble .... and lets be honest, they weren't wrong.

Anne has some extremely unpalatable views, I completely understand that, but saying someone would be trouble really can't be considered to be racial bias, because the same woman makes similar comments about anyone. Remember she was the one that said the Tory PM hopeful at the time had something about the night about him .... That's who she is.

[Ammi]

...I think that you miss the point, bots...the point is how the media and some of the public will focus on what their own mindset is...it’s not about what ‘one woman said’...the ‘outrage’ often comes from the thought or suggestion of racism/prejudice...rather than the racism/prejudice itself, which should surely be the first focus...the way it’s focused on is sadly so often with dismissal...

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I think that you miss the point, bots...the point is how the media and some of the public will focus on what their own mindset is...it’s not about what ‘one woman said’...the ‘outrage’ often comes from the thought or suggestion of racism/prejudice...rather than the racism/prejudice itself, which should surely be the first focus...the way it’s focused on is sadly so often with dismissal...

i think its a step too far to say something may be attributed to racial bias when there is zero evidence to back it up other than nebulous connotations or what they explicitly say is not considered a crime.

[Ammi]

...racial undertones are attributed though .....which was acknowledged by the Palace as well with their original statement..(...I’m not sure if that was around the time, just after Rachel Johnson made her ‘exotic DNA’ comment...)...that comment most definitely had racial undertones..when has a comment like that ever been made of any other Royal lady..?...that was very specific to Meghan and her heritage...and that was in the very early days...as the lady in the interview said...(..sorry I don’t recall her name...)...’racism is at the heart’...is the thing that should be focused on in 2020, rather than dismissed in the way it often is...I think it was Dezzy that said, there is often more media/social media and (some) public etc outrage at suggestions of prejudice, than there is at the prejudice itself..hence it being dismissed as of lesser significance, when it really isn’t at all and shouldn’t be...it’s the foremost thing, surely...

[Elliot]

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[The Slim Reaper]

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Another example of the horrible treatment Meghan has received .
Yet Kate is praised .

[The Slim Reaper]

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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...tandards-royal