[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree in principle about the honesty, but the government admitting that the economy is in big trouble would cause stocks to crash. The entire financial system set up as the UK standard by good ol' Ms Thatcher relies entirely on trader confidence, and the sad reality is, we sold everything off so the UK economy now relies heavily on London trading.

What really needs to happen though is at least being more open about it, but hand in hand with confident statements about how we're going to make it work and keep business going, which would hopefully remedy some of the market fears. As always strong, confident leadership is absolutely key and that's why Boris' Sunday video was an absolute disaster. Like basically the worst of both worlds! Confusing for the public AND alarming for the markets, because it was all over the place. Full of ifs, buts and maybes. A great big "shrug" of a statement.

Yep, they have crashed and are crashing, some industry specific advice and guidelines would help everyone; employers, employees and investors know the state of play moving forward.
Announcing on Sunday that sectors return to work on Monday with no guidelines is ridiculous and will in no way instill confidence in any market as it will lead to a prediction of a second wave of infection.

He's now suggesting last night's announcement was a 'rough sketch of a road map' ... Who the feck wants that?! The guy is a joke.

[arista]

[In all honesty I think they're panicking but I don't think this is just a UK issue right now; most of Europe is going back to work and, in terms of the spread, far too early. It's not just too early for the UK, it's too early for every country that's aiming to get back to work.]

Yes TS
Germany infection has gone back UP
since they changed things.

[Liam-]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Grim

[arista]

For Kaz

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

For Kaz

Opinions are like assholes we all have one some agree some don't and never the twain will meet I watched Boris and the message was clear. Go back to work if it is safe to do so otherwise, stay home. Continue to observe social distancing but the limitation on leaving the house just to exercise has been lifted.

I can't understand why people are complaining - it is not as if a large number of them were observing the original restrictions anyway.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Opinions are like assholes we all have one some agree some don't and never the twain will meet I watched Boris and the message was clear. Go back to work if it is safe to do so otherwise, stay home. Continue to observe social distancing but the limitation on leaving the house just to exercise has been lifted.

I can't understand why people are complaining - it is not as if a large number of them were observing the original restrictions anyway.

That does not address the issue raised in the vid, that conservative MPS don't know what the advice is following the speech either.

Attacking morgan for his comments was a smokescreen to cover the fact he had no clue what the advice was either.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That does not address the issue raised in the vid, that conservative MPS don't know what the advice is following the speech either.

Attacking morgan for his comments was a smokescreen to cover the fact he had no clue what the advice was either.

Yes thats why Owen Jones
posted it.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I can't understand why people are complaining.

I can’t speak for everyone, but I hate needless premature deaths. Wbu?

[The Slim Reaper]

Holy ****, arista posted about Owen Jones without using a pejorative. He'll be wearing a che guevara t-shirt, and a beret with a hammer and sickle badge on it next.

[DouglasS]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Opinions are like assholes we all have one some agree some don't and never the twain will meet I watched Boris and the message was clear. Go back to work if it is safe to do so otherwise, stay home. Continue to observe social distancing but the limitation on leaving the house just to exercise has been lifted.

I can't understand why people are complaining - it is not as if a large number of them were observing the original restrictions anyway.

A very clear message was given. I feel like people are relying on the government for their common sense/basic thoughts

[Withano]

Originally Posted by DouglasS

A very clear message was given. I feel like people are relying on the government for their common sense/basic thoughts

You gonna stay steady in that stance when the police can do very little about the local yobs meeting up and infecting your neighbourhood, friends or family?

Because honestly, I don’t think you’ve thought about the potential ramifications that his speech may have on you personally yet.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Opinions are like assholes we all have one some agree some don't and never the twain will meet I watched Boris and the message was clear. Go back to work if it is safe to do so otherwise, stay home. Continue to observe social distancing but the limitation on leaving the house just to exercise has been lifted.

I can't understand why people are complaining - it is not as if a large number of them were observing the original restrictions anyway.

Yep, KT summed it up quite well:

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Yep, KT summed it up quite well:

trust Katie,she's right though.

[Nicky91]

i cannot comment myself on british government of course

but i am pleased on our dutch government yes, we are easing down measures now at a perfect time, when you low numbers now, but more still being very careful doing so

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i cannot comment myself on british government of course

[Kizzy]

yeah the guy has gone from hero to zero with the gammonati

[Withano]

85% of tibb agreeing the government are doing bad or terribly is probably the closest we’ve got as a community to agreeing on something. And that’s pretty cute.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

85% of tibb agreeing the government are doing bad or terribly is probably the closest we’ve got as a community to agreeing on something. And that’s pretty cute.

Well done you got the result you wanted

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well done you got the result you wanted

I’m relieved that most on tibb have the ability to change their mindset based on new information provided to them. It shows maturity and rational thinking.

You’ve not actually voted in the poll?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Withano

I’m relieved that most on tibb have the ability to change their mindset based on new information provided to them. It shows maturity and rational thinking.

You’ve not actually voted in the poll?

Oh c'mon, lol, you knew what the result would be.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh c'mon, lol, you knew what the result would be.

The poll has been posted every week and the results have changed each time

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh c'mon, lol, you knew what the result would be.

I actually wasn’t expecting ‘terrible’ to go from 18% to 70% because that’s a ****ing crazy difference.

But it is fair considering the mess they’ve made this week. There are yet to be coherent arguments as to why they should be considered good on this thread.

Just the usual nonsense about labour and tories, and left and right wing, and nothing specific about the handling of the pandemic

[AnnieK]

Multiple news outlets, political correspondents, members of the Conservative government and countless members of the public including Trade Unions asked for more clarity....Dominic Raab sounded confused this morning. The fact of the matter is, last night's broadcast was ambiguous because a lot of the information was, and still is being drafted.....a clear message it was not yesterday. Today is a little clearer and I am sure in coming days a lot of the TBC will appear but to say that the message last night was clear and transparent is a little blinkered.

[Marsh.]

Katie Hopkins' twitter feed. Someone's running out of material.