[bots]

i thought the brooch incident was intentional by Princess Michael

[thesheriff443]

People devote their entire life to issues such as racism, but Harry who sits in someone’s else’s mansion wanting for nothing is the right person to be talking about racist issues.

Jumping on any issue that’s making the news to try to stay relevant.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

People devote their entire life to issues such as racism, but Harry who sits in someone’s else’s mansion wanting for nothing is the right person to be talking about racist issues.

Jumping on any issue that’s making the news to try to stay relevant.

Harry's wife and son are mixed race, he's certainly more qualified than a lot of people, mansion or not

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Harry's wife and son are mixed race, he's certainly more qualified than a lot of people, mansion or not

How DARE someone in an interracial couple with a mixed race child think they know anything about race issues .

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Philip exists.

Prince Philip is renowned for speaking his mind. Here we celebrate his best jokes and gaffes from over the years.

"British women can't cook" (in Britain in 1966).

"What do you gargle with, pebbles?" (speaking to singer Tom Jones after the 1969 Royal Variety Performance).

"I declare this thing open, whatever it is." (on a visit to Canada in 1969).

"Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed" (during the 1981 recession).

"If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." (at a 1986 World Wildlife Fund meeting).

"It looks like a tart's bedroom." (on seeing plans for the Duke and Duchess of York's house at Sunninghill Park in 1988).

"Yak, yak, yak; come on get a move on." (shouted from the deck of Britannia in Belize in 1994 to the Queen who was chatting to her hosts on the quayside).
"We didn't have counsellors rushing around every time somebody let off a gun, asking 'Are you all right? Are you sure you don't have a ghastly problem?' You just got on with it." (about the Second World War commenting on modern stress counselling for servicemen in 1995).

"How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?" (to a driving instructor in Oban, Scotland, during a 1995 walkabout).

"If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" (in 1996, amid calls to ban firearms after the Dunblane shooting).

"Bloody silly fool!" (in 1997, referring to a Cambridge University car park attendant who did not recognise him).

"It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." (pointing at an old-fashioned fusebox in a factory near Edinburgh in 1999).

"Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf." (to young deaf people in Cardiff, in 1999, referring to a school's steel band).

"They must be out of their minds." (in the Solomon Islands, in 1982, when he was told that the annual population growth was 5%).

"You are a woman, aren't you?"(In Kenya, in 1984, after accepting a small gift from a local woman).

"If you stay here much longer, you'll all be slitty-eyed." (to British students in China, during the 1986 state visit).

"Your country is one of the most notorious centres of trading in endangered species in the world." (in Thailand, in 1991, after accepting a conservation award).

"Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease." (in Australia, in 1992, when asked to stroke a Koala bear).

"You can't have been here that long - you haven't got a pot belly." (to a Briton in Budapest, Hungary, in 1993).

"Aren't most of you descended from pirates?" (to a wealthy islander in the Cayman Islands in 1994).

"You managed not to get eaten, then?" (suggesting to a student in 1998 who had been trekking in Papua New Guinea that tribes there were still cannibals).

In Germany, in 1997, he welcomed German Chancellor Helmut Kohl at a trade fair as "Reichskanzler" - the last German leader who used the title was Adolf Hitler.

"You're too fat to be an astronaut." (to 13-year-old Andrew Adams who told Philip he wanted to go into space. Salford, 2001).

"I wish he'd turn the microphone off." (muttered at the Royal Variety Performance as he watched Sir Elton John perform, 2001).

"Do you still throw spears at each other?" (In Australia in 2002 talking to a successful aborigine entrepreneur).

"You look like a suicide bomber." (to a young female officer wearing a bullet-proof vest on Stornoway, Isle of Lewis, in 2002).

"Do you know they're now producing eating dogs for anorexics?" (to a blind woman outside Exeter Cathedral, 2002).

"Well, you didn't design your beard too well, did you?" (to designer Stephen Judge about his tiny goatee beard in July 2009).

"There's a lot of your family in tonight." (after looking at the name badge of businessman Atul Patel at a Palace reception for British Indians in October 2009).

"Do you work it a strip club?" (to 24-year-old Barnstaple Sea Cadet Elizabeth Rendle when she told him she also worked in a nightclub in March 2010).

"Do you have a pair of knickers made out of this?" (pointing to some tartan to Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie a papal reception in Edinburgh in September 2010).

"Bits are beginning to drop off." (on approaching his 90th birthday, 2011).
"How many people have you knocked over this morning on that thing?" (meeting disabled David Miller who drives a mobility scooter at the Valentine Mansion in Redbridge in March 2012).

"I would get arrested if I unzipped that dress." (to 25-year-old council worker Hannah Jackson, who was wearing a dress with a zip running the length of its front, on a Jubilee visit to Bromley, Kent, in May 2012).

"The Philippines must be half empty as you're all here running the NHS." (on meeting a Filipino nurse at a Luton hospital in February 2013).

"Most stripping is done by hand." (to 83-year-old Mars factory worker Audrey Cook when discussing how she used to strip or cut Mars Bars by hand in April 2013).

"(Children) go to school because their parents don't want them in the house." (prompting giggles from Malala Yousafzai, who survived an assassination attempt by the Taliban after campaigning for the right of girls to go to school without fear - October 2013).

"Just take the *******ing picture." (losing patience with an RAF photographer at events to mark the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Britain - July 2015).

"You look starved." (to a pensioner on a visit to the Charterhouse almshouse for elderly men - February 2017)

"I'm just a bloody amoeba." (on the Queen's decision that their children should be called Windsor, not Mountbatten).

"Gentlemen, I think it is time we pulled our fingers out."(to the Industrial Co-Partnership Association on Britain's inefficient industries in 1961).

"Are you asking me if the Queen is going to die?" (on being questioned on when the Prince of Wales would succeed to the throne).

"If the man had succeeded in abducting Anne, she would have given him a hell of a time while in captivity." (On a gunman who tried to kidnap the Princess Royal in 1974).

"I hope he breaks his bloody neck." (when a photographer covering a royal visit to India fell out of a tree).

"If it doesn't fart or eat hay, she's not interested." (on the Princess Royal).

"When a man opens a car door for his wife, it's either a new car or a new wife." (on marriage).

"It's a pleasant change to be in a country that isn't ruled by its people." (to Alfredo Stroessner, the Paraguayan dictator).

"Where did you get that hat?" (supposedly to Queen at her Coronation).

[Crimson Dynamo]

i think that her taking issue with a brooch and not giving the benefit of the doubt really just illustrates waht a nasty piece of work she is. Also in the book it says that she saw Charles as her 2nd Father. well she has rinsed her actual dad out to dry so that really is just another dig at her poor father whom she despises

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i think that her taking issue with a brooch and not giving the benefit of the doubt really just illustrates waht a nasty piece of work she is. Also in the book it says that she saw Charles as her 2nd Father. well she has rinsed her actual dad out to dry so that really is just another dig at her poor father whom she despises

The idea that people "owe" their parents unconditional good regard and respect regardless of their actions is an inherently flawed one, I find. Really it's just used as an excuse to be a ****ty parent (or person) and then say "Waaaah you have to still like & respect me because I spat you out of my willy(/pushed you out of my vagina) AND I spent money on feeding you waah".

If I turn out to be a crappy dad I hope I've at least done a good enough job to raise daughters with the self-confidence to tell me so and avoid me. Know what I won't do if that happens? Whine about it to tabloid journalists for cash.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by toy soldier

the idea that people "owe" their parents unconditional good regard and respect regardless of their actions is an inherently flawed one, i find. Really it's just used as an excuse to be a ****ty parent (or person) and then say "waaaah you have to still like & respect me because i spat you out of my willy(/pushed you out of my vagina) and i spent money on feeding you waah".

If i turn out to be a crappy dad i hope i've at least done a good enough job to raise daughters with the self-confidence to tell me so and avoid me. Know what i won't do if that happens? Whine about it to tabloid journalists for cash.

you do realise she literally falls out with everyone?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

you do realise she literally falls out with everyone?

Yes I'm sure her relationships with "everyone" have been fully documented, and people don't have a vested interest in only reporting those she's had fallouts with.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The idea that people "owe" their parents unconditional good regard and respect regardless of their actions is an inherently flawed one, I find. Really it's just used as an excuse to be a ****ty parent (or person) and then say "Waaaah you have to still like & respect me because I spat you out of my willy(/pushed you out of my vagina) AND I spent money on feeding you waah".

If I turn out to be a crappy dad I hope I've at least done a good enough job to raise daughters with the self-confidence to tell me so and avoid me. Know what I won't do if that happens? Whine about it to tabloid journalists for cash.

Meghan was always saying how wonderful her Dad was pre - Harry. There was the speech she gave on something or other when she was full of praise for him and references on her 'Tig' blog about how he was the best Dad in the world.
What makes you think he was crappy?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

Meghan was always saying how wonderful her Dad was pre - Harry. There was the speech she gave on something or other when she was full of praise for him and references on her 'Tig' blog about how he was the best Dad in the world.

People praising their crappy parents in the hopes that the positive attention will turn them into better people is extremely common.

What makes you think he was crappy?

He sold stories about his daughter to tabloids.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

People praising their crappy parents in the hopes that the positive attention will turn them into better people is extremely common.

Yeah, right.

He sold stories about his daughter to tabloids.

Stupid thing to do, but there is a long story leading up to that, which you either are ignorant of or you don't want to comment on because you know Meghan doesn't come out of it smelling of roses.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Shortly after the announcement, royal correspondent Camilla Tominey claimed she was told by two sources that “Kate was left in tears" by Meghan following a row over Princess Charlotte's bridesmaid's dress before the royal wedding in May.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal...yal-family-spt

I mean could there be anyone nicer than Kate? Only just met her and already making her cry??

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I mean could there be anyone nicer than Kate? Only just met her and already making her cry??

I don't know and neither do you because - just as with Megan - neither of us have met any of these people and are going entirely on 2nd/3rd/4th+ hand information about them that we've read online or in papers (if we are Luddites).

[Livia]

Maybe they're impostors. I'm sure I read that Harry and Meghan didn't want anything to do with the nasty press.

[Tom4784]

Anyone that would sell stories on their children is scum. If this was Kate's father, the people cheering on Meghan's would revile him and rightfully so but because his stories paint Meghan in a bad light, he is held up as a hero in their eyes.

It's sad when obssession overcomes morality, rationality and common sense.

Anyone that sells stories about their kids is a ****, end of.

[jet]

I'm not condoning what Mr. Markle did, it was wrong.
But neither to I adhere to the ‘daughters and sons can treat their parents like s*** and they just have to suck it up’ school of thought either.
All adults are responsible for their actions.

It’s just sad the way things have turned out with Meghan and her Dad, especially when the whole saga could have been avoided by making sure her father was looked after when he was being hounded by the press and bringing Harry to meet him. Or just returning his desperate calls.

He was a hurt and frustrated man, and hurt and frustrated people do stupid things.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

I'm not condoning what Mr. Markle did, it was wrong.
But neither to I adhere to the ‘daughters and sons can treat their parents like s*** and they just have to suck it up’ school of thought either.
All adults are responsible for their actions.

It’s just sad the way things have turned out with Meghan and her Dad, especially when the whole saga could have been avoided by making sure her father was looked after when he was being hounded by the press and bringing Harry to meet him. Or just returning his desperate calls.

He was a hurt and frustrated man, and hurt and frustrated people do stupid things.

They don't have to suck it up, they don't have to say nothing, they don't have to like their children or their actions, they don't have to put up with mistreatment, they don't have to not be angry or express anger, or sadness, or whatever else they're feeling, to their children... or to confidants...

...they do have to refrain from taking action specifically designed to cause harm, and from exploiting for financial gain. He didn't "slip up" and accidentally sell tabloid stories, that's not something that can happen without plenty of opportunity to reconsider.

It's fine that you disagree but there are many people, including myself, who find his behaviour selfish and highly questionable in terms of what sort of person he is overall. It makes other criticism of him far more believable, at the very least.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

They don't have to suck it up, they don't have to say nothing, they don't have to like their children or their actions, they don't have to put up with mistreatment, they don't have to not be angry or express anger, or sadness, or whatever else they're feeling, to their children... or to confidants...

...they do have to refrain from taking action specifically designed to cause harm, and from exploiting for financial gain. He didn't "slip up" and accidentally sell tabloid stories, that's not something that can happen without plenty of opportunity to reconsider.

It's fine that you disagree but there are many people, including myself, who find his behaviour selfish and highly questionable in terms of what sort of person he is overall. It makes other criticism of him far more believable, at the very least.

The articles that I read always added: Mr. Markle was not paid for this Interview.
How do you know if he was?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

The articles that I read always added: Mr. Markle was not paid for this Interview.
How do you know if he was?

Him and a photographer staged photographs that were sold to the global press for a 6-figure sum. There's no "proof" that he got a slice of that/was paid in advance by said photographer, but you'd have to be pretty naive to not think it likely.

edit: to add to that, I can't find many that state he was NOT paid for comments and interviews, only reports that say it is "unknown" whether or not he was given financial incentive. There's no rules on having to disclose it. Though for press transparency there probably SHOULD be.

[The Slim Reaper]

If I'm not saying what he did was right, but he only did it because they made him is considered a reasonable explanation, then absolutely no one is responsible for their own actions.

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

If I'm not saying what he did was right, but he only did it because they made him is considered a reasonable explanation, then absolutely no one is responsible for their own actions.

Everyone is responsible for their actions, because they have to pay the price of those actions. Mr. Markle, Harry and Meghan are now all paying the price for what they all did.

[Ammi]

...Sadly her father sold her for a few pieces of silver, that’s the crux of it...he had a choice not to but he chose to...I can’t imagine how she must have felt, being ‘sold’ by someone she had complete trust in...

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...Sadly her father sold her for a few pieces of silver, that’s the crux of it...he had a choice not to but he chose to...I can’t imagine how she must have felt, being ‘sold’ by someone she had complete trust in...

He didn’t sell her to a slave trader did he, just a story along with many other stories written about her by many other people.

[Niamh.]

Following his daughter’s wedding to Prince Harry, Meghan Markle’s father has been doing a number of interviews in the media and blasting the royal family. His motives for doing so have been questioned a number of times and people are beginning to wonder if he truly doesn’t understand how he’s coming off or if money is the reason he won’t stop talking. Here’s more on Thomas Markle Sr.’s finances and how much he’s reportedly making off his daughter’s fame.

The former actress’ dad has given one scathing interview after another and while one in particular with the Daily Mail was reportedly done without an exchange of cash, that hasn’t been the case with all of them. Markle Sr. admitted himself that he was paid to take paparazzi photos that were staged prior to the royal wedding. However, he claimed that he didn’t do it for money but rather to repair his image because photographers had only snapped unflattering pictures of him.

“They’d take photos of me grabbing a beer, take photos of me getting into my car … they’d take photos of me making me look negative,” he said.

There’s no good excuse though for him talking to the press about his daughter and her husband on several other occasions and accepting payouts for thousands of dollars to do so.

Less than a month after the world watched Meghan marry Prince Harry, Markle Sr. gave an interview to ITV’s Good Morning Britain for a reported $10,000. However, other sites have said the amount was actually much higher.

In addition, Markle Sr. has continued his own personal media tour with TMZ as well as tabloids in Britain for undisclosed amounts. In every interview, he seems more and more bitter when talking about Meghan and her in-laws so it appears at this point that he’s just selling his daughter out.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertain...sr-worth.html/