[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The timing is rather suspicious


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if you watch the above video that is clearly explained by the journalist who was approached

again it also dispels any claim that it was press led

[arista]

Originally Posted by Zizu

The timing is rather suspicious

Only to folks like you.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

I think what is apparent is that its all about the timing of the allegation, not many people saying "meghan isnt a bully"

looks like most people think "yep, that figures"

[thesheriff443]

If you look at the yew tree investigations or other incidents they are not always investigated at the time in some cases it’s years later because the people at the time did not report them or the people who looked into the allegations did not take it further.

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you look at the yew tree investigations or other incidents they are not always investigated at the time in some cases it’s years later because the people at the time did not report them or the people who looked into the allegations did not take it further.

These allegations were reported. As an employer, the Royal Family have a duty of care and a legal obligation to protect the welfare of the staff. If these allegations prove true, the staff members could and should take them to an employment tribunal for failing to follow up correctly at the time. Sadly now, what should have dealt with swiftly, decisively and privately at the time will be played out in the media glare and these individuals will be thrust into the limelight in an attempt to point score. They will not have anonymity that would have had if it was dealt with at the time.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

These allegations were reported. As an employer, the Royal Family have a duty of care and a legal obligation to protect the welfare of the staff. If these allegations prove true, the staff members could and should take them to an employment tribunal for failing to follow up correctly at the time. Sadly now, what should have dealt with swiftly, decisively and privately at the time will be played out in the media glare and these individuals will be thrust into the limelight in an attempt to point score. They will not have anonymity that would have had if it was dealt with at the time.

There have of course been individuals let down if these bullying claims are proven true but history as shown there have been many cover ups in many organisations over the years.

At the time covering up bullying claims would of protected Meghan not the people being bullied

Meghan and Harry have show they don’t give two f’s for the queen so maybe its the right time for the shxt to hit the fan

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

There have of course been individuals let down if these bullying claims are proven true but history as shown there have been many cover ups in many organisations over the years.

At the time covering up bullying claims would of protected Meghan not the people being bullied

Meghan and Harry have show they don’t give two f’s for the queen so maybe its the right time for the shxt to hit the fan

Agree with this and that is where I am saying there has been failings and those failings were made by the employers (the Royals). I abhor bullying of any kind and it being covered up, I don't care who it protects, is wrong. I truly hope there has been no bullying and that the allegations were brushed aside because there was no substance to them and not to protect someone.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Agree with this and that is where I am saying there has been failings and those failings were made by the employers (the Royals). I abhor bullying of any kind and it being covered up, I don't care who it protects, is wrong. I truly hope there has been no bullying and that the allegations were brushed aside because there was no substance to them and not to protect someone.

I’m afraid history has shown not every one gets treated fairly you only have to look at how someone of colour gets treated compared to a white person or how someone with money gets treated to a poor person.

Llfe is definitely not fair.

[thesheriff443]

I think it’s some times good to give a real life example of failings

Many years ago when I was a bad boy I walked into a police station and handed the sergeant a fake insurance document he briefly looked over it and said it looks alright if it’s not you’ve gotten away with it.

A basic phone call would of landed me in the ****.

[Parmy]

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

I think the Palace did not fully investigate the Meghan bullying because they feared she would cry discrimination...

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think the Palace did not fully investigate the Meghan bullying because they feared she would cry discrimination...

If they have clear policies in place for dealing with discrimination, harassment and bullying, like all workplaces are meant to , by law,there should have been no concerns in undertaking an investigation at the time. The fact that it was reported and not thoroughly investigated casts doubt on the robustness of their HR team in all honesty

[jet]

I think this is at the heart of what went wrong...
From The Times:

The palace knew that when Harry married a woman who was biracial, American and divorced, they had to go out of their way to make sure the marriage was a success: if it was not, the royal household and their supposedly hidebound ways would be blamed. “Everyone knew that the institution would be judged by her happiness,” a source said. “The mistake they made was thinking she wanted to be happy. She wanted to be rejected because she was obsessed with that narrative from day one.”
More than one source has expressed their view about her wanting to be a victim. One claimed: “She wanted to be the victim because then she could convince Harry that it was an unbearable experience and they had no choice but to move to America.”

..........
While the second paragraph is an opinion (which many share), the first paragraph sounds very logical.

So I think that when the palace ‘men in grey suits’ were informed by Meghans communication secretary about the bullying of the females, they protected Meghan by hushing it up and brushing it under the carpet. The senior royals knew nothing about the allegations apparently, thats what their staff is there for.
Those staff need to be held to account and as these victims felt bullied and are still suffering from trauma a year later, as they have said, Meghan needs to be held to account. Those females are hardly being forced and coached by the royals to tell a pack of lies now, are they?
Meghan is choosing to tell the world her version of events, these girls have the right to tell theirs ahead of what would otherwise be a one - sided view.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by jet

I think this is at the heart of what went wrong...
From The Times:

The palace knew that when Harry married a woman who was biracial, American and divorced, they had to go out of their way to make sure the marriage was a success: if it was not, the royal household and their supposedly hidebound ways would be blamed. “Everyone knew that the institution would be judged by her happiness,” a source said. “The mistake they made was thinking she wanted to be happy. She wanted to be rejected because she was obsessed with that narrative from day one.”
More than one source has expressed their view about her wanting to be a victim. One claimed: “She wanted to be the victim because then she could convince Harry that it was an unbearable experience and they had no choice but to move to America.”

..........
While the second paragraph is an opinion (which many share), the first paragraph sounds very logical.

So I think that when the palace ‘men in grey suits’ were informed by Meghans communication secretary about the bullying of the females, they protected Meghan by hushing it up and brushing it under the carpet. The senior royals knew nothing about the allegations apparently, thats what their staff is there for.
Those staff need to be held to account and as these victims felt bullied and are still suffering from trauma a year later, as they have said, Meghan needs to be held to account. Those females are hardly being forced and coached by the royals to tell a pack of lies now, are they?
Meghan is choosing to tell the world her version of events, these girls have the right to tell theirs ahead of what would otherwise be a one - sided view.

I think that her thunder has been stolen by the "Survivors of the Sussex's" and i wonder if they will try and re-shoot stuff in light?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

Yes it’s quite ridiculous that Harry and Meg get all this hassle given what we’ve ‘heard’ ‘bout randyandy




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[bots]

For someone that values her privacy so much, she sure spends a lot of time airing her grievances in public. It's hilarious really

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

For someone that values her privacy so much, she sure spends a lot of time airing her grievances in public. It's hilarious really

and 'building compassion around the world' that doesn't extend to the elderlies in her family obviously

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Cherie

and 'building compassion around the world' that doesn't extend to the elderlies in her family obviously

and womens rights...

until the Saudi prince gifts you some diamonds....

[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely the palace should be investigating prince andrew as well.

I think that should be down to the Police, not the Palace. These allegations about Meghan are about a member of staff, the allegations about Andrew are not work related. The Queen sacked him as an employee and she maintained the integrity of the "business". Unless there have been reports of his proclivities towards a member of Palace staff, there is little more the Palace can do about him

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I think that should be down to the Police, not the Palace. These allegations about Meghan are about a member of staff, the allegations about Andrew are not work related. The Queen sacked him as an employee and she maintained the integrity of the "business". Unless there have been reports of his proclivities towards a member of Palace staff, there is little more the Palace can do about him

Ah ok..

Well they need to investigate these allegations of bullying very thoroughly then.

[jet]

It also has to be factored in that -
'Harry pleaded with Mr. Knauf not to pursue the allegations'. (The Times)
Harry has denied this.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Surely the palace should be investigating prince Andrew as well.

No,
as that it all a USA Utter Mess

[Alf]

Meanwhile, there's still a wall around Washington DC with a military presence. Just a normal everyday happening it seems.

[user104658]

Nah, with all of this "Well now WE accuse YOU first hahaha!" stuff, The Royal Illusion has been unveiled as just another petty political entity. Stiff upper lip and pretending to be above it would have been their best way forward. They're down scrapping in the mud now like all of the other celebs... can't say I don't enjoy seeing it . It was never anything but smoke and mirrors and relied upon the public buying into the whole thing to keep afloat... now even the future king's brother isn't buying into it so it's collapsing like a pack of soggy cards and they're chucking around rumours and accusations. So undignified. Love that .

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nah, with all of this "Well now WE accuse YOU first hahaha!" stuff, The Royal Illusion has been unveiled as just another petty political entity. Stiff upper lip and pretending to be above it would have been their best way forward. They're down scrapping in the mud now like all of the other celebs... can't say I don't enjoy seeing it . It was never anything but smoke and mirrors and relied upon the public buying into the whole thing to keep afloat... now even the future king's brother isn't buying into it so it's collapsing like a pack of soggy cards and they're chucking around rumours and accusations. So undignified. Love that .

none of the people who approached the Times work for the Royal Family