[bots]

The Dems won the senate race in Arizona, It's now 49 each with 2 results remaining. The dems need 1 of those two to retain control of the senate

[MTVN]

The Republicans were further ahead in Nevada but there's now only 0.1% in it apparently, I expect the Democrats will end up winning it which will make Georgia's run off redundant

The length of time it's taking to count the votes is a joke though and doesn't help build trust in the electoral process

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The Republicans were further ahead in Nevada but there's now only 0.1% in it apparently, I expect the Democrats will end up winning it which will make Georgia's run off redundant

The length of time it's taking to count the votes is a joke though and doesn't help build trust in the electoral process

Maybe another box of postal votes "was found" at the last moment

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Maybe another box of postal votes "was found" at the last moment

they have always been dealing with a definitive set of results, the exception being postal votes that arrive up to the deadline. That is part of state law, that the republicans were responsible for

The other thing worth noting is that the dems do well in the postal voting purely because trump told the gop voters to vote in person and never use postal voting So basically he has kicked out all the aging republicans from voting who cant make it to a polling station

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they have always been dealing with a definitive set of results, the exception being postal votes that arrive up to the deadline. That is part of state law, that the republicans were responsible for

The other thing worth noting is that the dems do well in the postal voting purely because trump told the gop voters to vote in person and never use postal voting So basically he has kicked out all the aging republicans from voting who cant make it to a polling station

I wasn't being entirely serious that said, a good rule of thumb is just not to trust any politicians, and if a sudden and unexpected change seems fishy, it probably is.

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[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I wasn't being entirely serious that said, a good rule of thumb is just not to trust any politicians, and if a sudden and unexpected change seems fishy, it probably is.

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the point is that it isn't a sudden change, and it's operation is enshrined in state law. There have been no objections raised by either party to election officials

[James]

In UK General Elections all the votes get counted in less than twelve hours after polls close.

Also, I remember one of the BBC correspondents commenting at the last election that one of the big problems with American elections is that each state is allowed to make its own election rules, and there isn't a standard system across the country. That makes legal challenges more likely.

[bots]

the election rules are different in different states. In Nevada, they dont stop accepting postal votes until this Monday and thats law. They also give postal voters an opportunity to sign their ballot paper until Monday, if they forgot People may not like it, but its the state law

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...el-Boulos.html

[arista]

US Senate needs 51

Today Now

49 Republicans
49 Democrats

[arista]

US Senate Right Now

50 Democrats
49 Republicans

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

US Senate Right Now

50 Democrats
49 Republicans

So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

Georgia won't be decided until December but it doesn't matter in practice now, if it's 50/50 the Dems retain control as the Vice President has the tie breaker

[arista]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So will it be 50/50 or 51/49 ?

Has the House been declared yet?

No

Not all the states are in.

[arista]

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Biden has been poor so far.

However I'm glad of the Senate result.
It's a kick in the teeth to Trump and I do hope the Republican Party take that on board too.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Biden has been poor so far.

However I'm glad of the Senate result.
It's a kick in the teeth to Trump and I do hope the Republican Party take that on board too.

Well it's no coincidence imo that as soon as Trump got more involved the worse the campaign went for the Republicans.

Because contrary to popular belief, most Americans hate Trump, even against Hilary Clinton he got less votes than her.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well it's no coincidence imo that as soon as Trump got more involved the worse the campaign went for the Republicans.

Because contrary to popular belief, most Americans hate Trump, even against Hilary Clinton he got less votes than her.

Yes that's all true Mock.
Good points.

[bots]

it will be weeks until the house is declared, but it's going to be a very small majority whoever ends up winning it

[Oliver_W]

Jesus how can single states take longer to count and verify their votes when ours are done within 24 hours? Not even the most populated state (Cali) has anywhere near the population of the UK, so they can't use more votes as an excuse.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Jesus how can single states take longer to count and verify their votes when ours are done within 24 hours? Not even the most populated state (Cali) has anywhere near the population of the UK, so they can't use more votes as an excuse.

they have all sorts of state laws in place to make sure everything is verified and double checked at every stage, it takes an enormous amount of time. Also, its not like here where the winner takes over the next day. The new session doesnt start until January, so they have plenty time

[Oliver_W]

Yeah I'm sure they have to ensure they get the right result.

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[bots]

people are under the impression that its all down to Trump. This is wrong. 200 republican members of the house didnt just start flouting democracy because of Trump. They did it because being in power is more important than anything else. It's the majority of the party. They don't have any policies, they only criticise everyone else. If Trump were to be kidnapped by aliens tomorrow, there are 200 members of congress with exactly the same views that could take over tomorrow.

Does that remind you of any other country?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

people are under the impression that its all down to Trump. This is wrong. 200 republican members of the house didnt just start flouting democracy because of Trump. They did it because being in power is more important than anything else. It's the majority of the party. They don't have any policies, they only criticise everyone else. If Trump were to be kidnapped by aliens tomorrow, there are 200 members of congress with exactly the same views that could take over tomorrow.

Does that remind you of any other country?

It's a fair point.

I do feel like those 200 will feel less emboldened now that their viewpoint has been rejected yet again though.