[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It's a very complex subject - 'Kink culture' has always been part of the LGBT community and has been part of Pride since it's inception, and hiding it away at an event meant to shine a light on the community feels counter productive.

What is actually achieved by parading the kinks in public? It certainly doesn't normalise same-sex relationships.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

What is actually achieved by parading the kinks in public? It certainly doesn't normalise same-sex relationships.

Why is someone's sexual kink a deciding factor on whether their relationship is normal or not?

I think there needs to be consideration that LGBT peoples relationship with their own sexual activity is a complex and complicated one, hence the public promotion of it during Pride.

Sex, and as a result kinks, have played a part in Pride events historically because our entire sexual activity was outlawed. Promoting a part of gay sexual culture such as kinks was originally as a protest to the fact that it was illegal for gay people to have sex - of any kind, kink or not.

Kinks are, for many gay people, a part of gay culture and so at an event celebrating gay culture, in it's many, many facets, it stands to reason these are represented.

We are normal, in the sense we are just the same on an individual level as anyone else, but that's not to say that there are aspects of the culture of LGBT people that aren't different to societal norms.

Pride is not about showing the gay community in their most heteronormative state, just so society see us as what they deem to be "normal".

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by BBXX

It's a very complex subject - 'Kink culture' has always been part of the LGBT community and has been part of Pride since it's inception, and hiding it away at an event meant to shine a light on the community feels counter productive.

While I think Pride Parades are a great opportunity for families to enjoy and support and for gay kids to feel part of something, that's just my personal opinion, and as a result I would feel it best it be all-age-appropriate.

However, it's important to remember Pride started as a riot and a protest and for most of history has been just that - it's never been a family-friendly event up until more recently, and there is a complexity in 'toning down' the reality of the event to suit a heteronormative society...

Here is a good article on it: https://www.businessinsider.com/kink...history-2021-6

I guess a perfect balance would be to have some family friendly acts/activities early on during a pride festival, and then the pride parade be for adults only.

Hi.


What age are these gay kids you mentioned?

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Beso

Hi.

What age are these gay kids you mentioned?

I don’t know any of them personally, I was talking generally. Why is it of interest?

[arista]

[A local restaurant owner is organizing
the Boise event after hosting a
“Heterosexual Awesomeness Month” last year.]

What a Spiffing Idea
to keep his Restaurant alive.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

What a Spiffing Idea

Calm down, Admiral.

[Livia]

When do the heterosexuals get to parade their perversions in daylight on public streets? I mean, it's not just gays who like to get freaky...

Does anyone want to see it anyway?

No.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Livia

When do the heterosexuals get to parade their perversions in daylight on public streets? I mean, it's not just gays who like to get freaky...

Does anyone want to see it anyway?

No.

Todays Headlines: Woman who doesn't actually care there isn't a straight pride parade pretends it's unfair they don't get one, and gets mad about the content of a gay pride parade she won't be going to watch anyway.

Next Up: Woman who doesn't care she doesn't have a cat is mad others do.

Sometimes when I don't understand something because I lack the experience and knowledge of the subject, I tend not to have such strong opinions on it, but that's just me

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Todays Headlines: Woman who doesn't actually care there isn't a straight pride parade pretends it's unfair they don't get one, and gets mad about the content of a gay pride parade she won't be going to watch anyway.

Next Up: Woman who doesn't care she doesn't have a cat is mad others do.

Sometimes when I don't understand something because I lack the experience and knowledge of the subject, I tend not to have such strong opinions on it, but that's just me

Straight people have kinks too, but don't feel the need to parade them for all to see - why should LGBT people? Why can't (daytime and public) Pride events be family-friendly?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Straight people have kinks too, but don't feel the need to parade them for all to see - why should LGBT people? Why can't (daytime and public) Pride events be family-friendly?

You get extroverts in all walks of life. Not just the homosexuals. I believe the majority of homosexuals are there for nostalgia and a good time. It's the extremists that let them down. But they're the ones who seem to grab the headlines.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

You get extroverts in all walks of life. Not just the homosexuals. I believe the majority of homosexuals are there for nostalgia and a good time. It's the extremists that let them down. But they're the ones who seem to grab the headlines.

Hm, maybe so.

I've never actually been to a Pride parade (don't revoke my Gay Card!) but more because I can't be bothered, more than any moral objection

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Straight people have kinks too, but don't feel the need to parade them for all to see - why should LGBT people? Why can't (daytime and public) Pride events be family-friendly?

I’ve explained why I think kinks are part of pride festivals above.

If parents find it inappropriate for children, they don’t need to take them in the same way they probably wouldn’t walk them through the Red Light District for example (entire streets open 24/7 where heterosexual women are near enough naked on display ready for heterosexual men to pay to sleep with them).

The pride parade is an 2 hour event in a city centre once a year. It’s not difficult to avoid.

[Niamh.]

Pink isn't bringing her daughter up gender neutral

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Pink isn't bringing her daughter up gender neutral

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As in she doesn't conform to restrictive stereotypes not that she raising her not as a girl or a boy

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Pink isn't bringing her daughter up gender neutral

That's a relief.

Because I don't believe that parents should be forcing labels onto their kids.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's a relief.

Because I don't believe that parents should be forcing labels onto their kids.

Gender neutral isn’t a label, it’s a way of not forcing a label or identity onto a child and letting them decide for themselves

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Gender neutral isn’t a label, it’s a way of not forcing a label or identity onto a child and letting them decide for themselves

I'm talking about if Pink had've forced her child to be not identifying as a girl, which I thought that Zizu was implying that at first.

Because to me that kind of stuff needs to be decided by the child, which thankfully it seems like Pink is doing.

I personally don't even understand why Zizu is having an issue with gender neutral parenting? Now that I'm understanding it better.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm talking about if Pink had've forced her child to be not identifying as a girl, which I thought that Zizu was implying that at first.

Because to me that kind of stuff needs to be decided by the child, which thankfully it seems like Pink is doing.

I personally don't even understand why Zizu is having an issue with gender neutral parenting? Now that I'm understanding it better.

its just ridiculous, because you cant decide to be male or female you are what you are born, if you want to decide down the line that is not for you fair enough, but parents telling their children they are neither male or female is a bit mad ...?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I'm talking about if Pink had've forced her child to be not identifying as a girl, which I thought that Zizu was implying that at first.

Because to me that kind of stuff needs to be decided by the child, which thankfully it seems like Pink is doing.

I personally don't even understand why Zizu is having an issue with gender neutral parenting? Now that I'm understanding it better.

Who knows what that kind of parenting leads to ??

Seems odd that her daughter just happens to present as a non girly -girl ..

[Glenn.]

Pride is about LGBTQ finally getting to shout "we're here and proud!" after all the grief and fighting just to be themselves. Straight folks haven't really had that same crap, because their way's always been the default, hasn't it?

So, when "Straight Pride" stuff pops up, it just feels like they're either not getting it, or they're having a laugh at our expense and trying to take the shine off what Pride actually means. Simple as that, really.

[thesheriff443]

For me personally and that’s really all you cal do in life is speak for yourself
I treat everyone as I want to be treated unfortunately Unfortunately not everyone shares that outlook

There are good people in every community the same way there are bad people it’s important not to judge everyone as a whole but as individuals

[Vicky.]

All kids should be able to wear what they want to, have hair how they want..and so on. My daughter very rarely wants to wear 'girly' things...means nothing besides she has her own mind. I wouldn't say letting them chose is 'bringing them up gender neutral'

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

All kids should be able to wear what they want to, have hair how they want..and so on. My daughter very rarely wants to wear 'girly' things...means nothing besides she has her own mind. I wouldn't say letting them chose is 'bringing them up gender neutral'

Hear hear!

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

All kids should be able to wear what they want to, have hair how they want..and so on. My daughter very rarely wants to wear 'girly' things...means nothing besides she has her own mind. I wouldn't say letting them chose is 'bringing them up gender neutral'

Is she letting them chose though by bringing them up the way she wants to bring them up