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Crimson Dynamo · 19-05-2010, 04:17 PM

Are these diseases or are they just greedy, needy and bloody lazy?

Niamh. · 19-05-2010, 04:22 PM

what's ME?

Niamh. · 19-05-2010, 04:22 PM

alcoholism is an addiction rather than a disease I would say

Crimson Dynamo · 19-05-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

alcoholism is an addiction rather than a disease I would say

ME is that one where the person is tired all the time (not students)

if I take an alcoholic to a desert island for 1 month and he does not drink then he cannot be said to have a physical addiction as it takes 2-3 days for all the alcohol to leave the body.

So are they just greedy buggers who just want more all the time?

setanta · 19-05-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

ME is that one where the person is tired all the time (not students)

if I take an alcoholic to a desert island for 1 month and he does not drink then he cannot be said to have a physical addiction as it takes 2-3 days for all the alcohol to leave the body.

So are they just greedy buggers who just want more all the time?

Nah, there's the distinct possibility that he could die from withdrawal without the proper treatment.

ILoveTRW · 19-05-2010, 04:26 PM

Paula Walnuts from The Real World Key West was an alcoholic anorexic

Crimson Dynamo · 19-05-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

Paula Walnutz from The Real World Key West was an alcoholic anorexic

AA would be ideal then

ILoveTRW · 19-05-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

AA would be ideal then

Then

Now

its amazing what a boob job can do for you

arista · 19-05-2010, 04:28 PM

Take Smokers
they get hooked.

Crimson Dynamo · 19-05-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by arista

Take Smokers
they get hooked.

piercings are not really addictive

arista · 19-05-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

piercings are not really addictive

Smoking Is
and smokers get Hooked .

WOMBAI · 19-05-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ILoveTRW

Paula Walnuts from The Real World Key West was an alcoholic anorexic

She sounds a real blast!

Crimson Dynamo · 19-05-2010, 04:43 PM

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She sounds a real blast!

not even a cheap date

ILoveTRW · 19-05-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

She sounds a real blast!

you have no idea

and i forgot to add that she was put in hospital by her boyfriend a few week before entering the house, and she was still with him

Shasown · 19-05-2010, 04:47 PM

ME and anorexia are illnesses. Alcoholism is an addiction/dependancy. Why dont you try it.

Barbie · 19-05-2010, 04:53 PM

What is this thread about, anorexia is none of these things, and i doubt the other two are either, illnesses all of them, one way or another

WOMBAI · 19-05-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Barbie

What is this thread about, anorexia is none of these things, and i doubt the other two are either, illnesses all of them, one way or another

I am inclined to view both anorexia and alcoholism - as the self-indulgent behaviour of needy people! Not very sympathic towards either!

InOne · 19-05-2010, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I am inclined to view both anorexia and alcoholism - as the self-indulgent behaviour of needy people! Not very sympathic towards either!

Why not Anorexia? It'a an illness. Not a good attitude for a woman to have.

WOMBAI · 19-05-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by InOne

Why not Anorexia? It'a an illness. Not a good attitude for a woman to have.

That is a very sexist thing to say! Why should a woman be automatically sympathetic to 'eating disorders'.

I believe that although there are some genuine cases - I think a lot of cases are based on the attention-seeking behaviour of insecure girls - far too pre-occupied with the way they look - which eventually leads to physical and mental illness!

InOne · 19-05-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

That is a very sexist thing to say! Why should a woman be automatically sympathetic to 'eating disorders'.

I believe that although there are some genuine cases - I think a lot of cases are based on the attention-seeking behaviour of insecure girls - far too pre-occupied with the way they look - which eventually leads to physical and mental illness!

It's not sexist. But you don't have to be so blunt either. The ones who are really ill don't shout about it, people don't find out often till they are too far gone. So it's hardly attention seeking at all seen as they do their best to hide it. Maybe you should go read up on it before making misinformed views.

setanta · 19-05-2010, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I am inclined to view both anorexia and alcoholism - as the self-indulgent behaviour of needy people! Not very sympathic towards either!

Tell me that you're joking!

Stu · 19-05-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I am inclined to view both anorexia and alcoholism - as the self-indulgent behaviour of needy people! Not very sympathic towards either!

Tell that to the thousands of people who honestly want to stop drinking on a psychological level, but need to keep drinking on a physical level.

Or vice versa for the anorexics.

It's not all attention seeking, you know. I am not saying all of them are, but many are sick people. Sick people need help and compassion. Not stern words from someone who hasn't got the faintest idea what they are talking about.

setanta · 19-05-2010, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Tell that to the thousands of people who honestly want to stop drinking on a psychological level, but need to keep drinking on a physical level.

Or vice versa for the anorexics.

It's not all attention seeking, you know. I am not saying all of them are, but many are sick people. Sick people need help and compassion. Not stern words from someone who hasn't got the faintest idea what they are talking about.

Seriously, I'm flabbergasted at people in here, even more so than usual!

WOMBAI · 19-05-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

Tell that to the thousands of people who honestly want to stop drinking on a psychological level, but need to keep drinking on a physical level.

Or vice versa for the anorexics.

It's not all attention seeking, you know. I am not saying all of them are, but many are sick people. Sick people need help and compassion. Not stern words from someone who hasn't got the faintest idea what they are talking about.

I completely agree that sick people need help and compassion! I see plenty of genuinely sick people! I guess it just depends on your definition of sick! And who are you to tell me I haven't the faintest idea what I am talking about! A 19 year old expert on anorexia and alcoholism no doubt!

Stu · 19-05-2010, 06:32 PM

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I don't need a credible argument - I have an opinion - that is based on some experience! I wonder how many of those having sarcastic little digs have any experience of their own! People have different experiences - and my opinions are based on mine! There is no right or wrong in this! Some people just like to think that those who think differently are wrong! I expressed an honest opinion - just because it wasn't a popular one - does not justify the aggressive response from some!

Your opinion is somewhat handicapped though. You said you worked on wards with alcoholics. That's bound to turn anyone sour, understandably so, cleaning up piss and taking abuse from them.

It's an opinion clouded by your profession. And as the topic title asks are they illneses/diseases, and they are, opinions need not apply.

Also, your posts I notice got slightly more compassionate as they went along. Your initial 'opinion' was misguided to say the least :

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Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I am inclined to view both anorexia and alcoholism - as the self-indulgent behaviour of needy people! Not very sympathic towards either!

Very vague, cruel, sweeping statement that people were obviously going to have issue with.