[arista]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

I actually think this is one of the best budgets to happen for a while. Everyone has been effected, and it is for the greater good. I'm glad the rich have not been hit harder like some want. Just because they earn more does not mean that the budget should penalise them more than the rest. It's not their fault England got into debt, just a few elitists fault. Also, as a smoker, I have no issue with the mass increase in price as I already cut down, this just gives me a reason to cut down further.

Yes Clever Budget.

Feel The Force.

[Marc]

I think the main idea behind the increase in the cost of cigarettes is a good thing, people should cut down because it is unhealthy for them. Thats proven. I know it's an addiction and upping the price will make a lot of people either spend more than they usually do or force them to quit.

They should quit. For their own health

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Marc

I think the main idea behind the increase in the cost of cigarettes is a good thing, people should cut down because it is unhealthy for them. Thats proven. I know it's an addiction and upping the price will make a lot of people either spend more than they usually do or force them to quit.

They should quit. For their own health

Indeed, I don't even know why I smoke tbh. It's more habit than enjoyment.

On the child allowance subject (I am not very knowledgeable with that area) but somebody I was speaking too was annoyed that their child benefits would be cut, despite them earning over the 60k barrier. I agree it should be cut. They earn enough and why should they be given money because they decided to have children? They don't need it. It's like me, I'm entitled to working tax credits, but I don't take it as I don't need the money as I earn enough through my own merit. I see a lot of people in our country who expect money for nothing but are not prepared to work hard for it.

It's a typical Torie budget, strip money from the services that affect the poorest in society, but ease the burden on the top bracket.

It's a classic Reagan-esque trickle down economic budget plan. By easing the burden on the top, they make a giant assumption that all these people are in the business of job creation, and by doing so, the only thing preventing the rich from creating jobs is an unfair taxation.

This has been proved numerous times to be false. Entrepreneurs don't work like this. I have my own business, and I've taken a 50% cut in my current income, in order that I can take on 2 staff members. I've taken a short term hit to my salary, because I know in 2/3 years time, they would have paid for themselves, and I'll then me earning around 60% more (based on basic targets).

Everywhere in the country we are asking people to sacrifice, yet this government don't believe that businesses should take a short term hit. How can we take food off the poorest tables, but insist that the top can keep the most expensive caviar?

[Marc]

Originally Posted by ukturtle

Indeed, I don't even know why I smoke tbh. It's more habit than enjoyment.

On the child allowance subject (I am not very knowledgeable with that area) but somebody I was speaking too was annoyed that their child benefits would be cut, despite them earning over the 60k barrier. I agree it should be cut. They earn enough and why should they be given money because they decided to have children? They don't need it. It's like me, I'm entitled to working tax credits, but I don't take it as I don't need the money as I earn enough through my own merit. I see a lot of people in our country who expect money for nothing but are not prepared to work hard for it.

Totally agree with child care tax, 60k is a ridiculous amount of money to be earning

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marc

Totally agree with child care tax, 60k is a ridiculous amount of money to be earning

Its referring to child benefit the government capped it at £42'000ish
anyone earning over that did not qualify. Now i think its been raised to £50'000 1% reduction for every £100 above that amount. With a full cap at £60'000

[Marc]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Its referring to child benefit the government capped it at £42'000ish
anyone earning over that did not qualify. Now i think its been raised to £50'000 1% reduction for every £100 above that amount. With a full cap at £60'000

Yeah I got that, I think earning £60,000 is a lot! I think if you have 60k then you'd be able to pay for stuff that your child needs.

[HBB1508]

Being a heavy smoker I'm quite miffed at the increase but it happens every budget so I'm used to it - after 40 years it might be time to contemplate giving up, maybe!!

[Ninastar]

I do think a luxury tax is a good idea

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I do think a luxury tax is a good idea

VAT started out as a luxury tax.

[Vicky.]

http://www.anorak.co.uk/316701/money...-obesity.html/

Just came up on my FB feed. Interesting

[Kizzy]

Lol! very interesting vicky
was just skimming through th budget again and it seems they have done what livia suggested...An obesity tax (i agree its a good thing) I would maybe call it a satfat tax though. Fast food outlets and GREGGS are to put the 20% VAT rate on their goods....

[joeysteele]

I doubt personally that even the most hard hearted politician would begrudge anyone on low incomes having a TV.
Of course people didn't have one and other things decades ago but times change and things progress.
We all have things we couldn't have ages ago.

[Mrluvaluva]

I stocked up last week with a couple of packets, but was surprised when I went into Asda today and my cigarettes are still the same price, where as they have gone up in other outlets. No idea why?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I stocked up last week with a couple of packets, but was surprised when I went into Asda today and my cigarettes are still the same price, where as they have gone up in other outlets. No idea why?

Hmm they might have reduced the price that they sell them at so the tax increase makes no change to the price, would mean they make less profit themselves though

[InOne]

Pall Mall are still the same for me

[Smithy]

They will be till the new ones are in production properly

[Mrluvaluva]

All the other supermarkets have gone up though Smithy?

[Kizzy]

right..im sick of all you smokers now...I demand you stop! ok?

[MTVN]

Don't think it would be anything to do with not having new ones, they were all supposed to go up in price 6pm the day it was announced in the budget I think

[Mrluvaluva]

Sorry Kizzy it did not work. Was worth a try though.

Prices compared....

[MTVN]

Even the fags at Waitrose are more expensive

[Mrluvaluva]

I know. It's cheaper to get them delivered than it is to buy them instore!