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Emma was bordering on sycophancy during this cringeworthy interview...
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I am so glad that after last nights BBOTS trying to ignore the 'EVENT' that Emma not only interviewed Daley,but also expressed her personal distaste of Hazel and her actions

Daley went a bit overboard with the 'self analysis@ and I think he was pushing his luck trying to get us to feel sorry for him by blaming his 'childhood?? but it was refreshing to see that Emma was allowed to express her feelings at Hazels behaviour and let us see that, like most right thinking people, she thinks Hazel should have gone too

Cant wait for Hazels Eviction interview yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy
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I'll bet there was a jump in the ratings tonight.

Since BB moved to C5 I get the impression ratings are even more important than they used to be.
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The daley sob fest.

All about how hard life has been lately, that he had alot to sort out, that alcohol was the main problem on the night. A few tears. A heart felt moment about girlfriend that he *****ed over on the show. His plea to the audience on how he'd nevet hurt a woman. And his obvious attempt to blame hazel.

Note that everytime Daleys behaviour came up, emma was at pains to point out that its 50/50. But when hazel "blame" was mentioned she was happy to agree. No 50/50 there.

The interview was total get out of jail free card.
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The basis of it is if he came on and said his intentions weren't to hurt anyone and he accepts he went too far then fair enough.

But I can't accept the blame game where he listed every external factor he could (food, drink, the room, the house, Hazel etc) for what he did.

Regardless of the assault though I detest the insinuation that Hazel takes ANY blame for his cheating. That's not 50/50, that's 100% on him that HE cheated.

Going with someone else's boyfriend is 100% on Hazel, but the decision by Daley himself to treat his girlfriend the way he did by instigating a relationship with her is all on him.
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I'm still shocked Hazel is getting the blame from some people, yes she is guilty of being a big old flirt but how anyone can think that makes her deserve to be pinned down and clearly scared and intimidated by somebody?
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I can see why they were trying to treat the issue very sensitively and give Daley a chance to explain himself, but I would probably agree with those that say they were too lenient on him. At no point was he really pressed or put under the spotlight and it's all very well him apologising to any women that were offended but what about apologising to the woman who he actually pinned to the bed by her neck and threatened? He talked a lot about 'being a man' but then seemed to deflect responsibility and not really accept just how in the wrong he was. Would also agree that Emma didn't really go far enough to condemn what he did, a couple of times going on about how "it takes two" which is a pretty ridiculous comment in light of how far things went.
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The way Emma conducted the interview, I thought she was going to get up and pat him on the back and say " job well done"
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I'm still shocked Hazel is getting the blame from some people, yes she is guilty of being a big old flirt but how anyone can think that makes her deserve to be pinned down and clearly scared and intimidated by somebody?
So when hazel gets evicted, in front of a braying crowd out for her blood, will she get the same respect and time to relay her story? Will she be allowed to blame everything else but herself? Will she be allowed to talk about how hard her life has been?

Im guessing no. The guy who gets the boot will be given every chance to tell the world his story. But the girl will be "branded"

Shocking turn of events
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So when hazel gets evicted, in front of a braying crowd out for her blood, will she get the same respect and time to relay her story? Will she be allowed to blame everything else but herself? Will she be allowed to talk about how hard her life has been?

Im guessing no. The guy who gets the boot will be given every chance to tell the world his story. But the girk will be "branded"
Yep and do you reckon that Emma will be as gentle and understanding towards her? I'm thinking no
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Showing Hazel on the morning after her experience will not help her in the victim role.

First climbing into Daley's bed to hug him then chatting to Daley as she put on her make up and them both lightheartedly discussing what their fate might be.

Daley will be able to use that as evidence that, if anything, he is the one who had been victimised (by BB).
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The way Emma conducted the interview, I thought she was going to get up and pat him on the back and say " job well done"
Correct! She probably did but it was edited...Worst interview ever...he should have been nailed not applauded/apologised to/sycophanted all over...disgusting...humph...
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I am so glad that after last nights BBOTS trying to ignore the 'EVENT' that Emma not only interviewed Daley,but also expressed her personal distaste of Hazel and her actions

Daley went a bit overboard with the 'self analysis@ and I think he was pushing his luck trying to get us to feel sorry for him by blaming his 'childhood?? but it was refreshing to see that Emma was allowed to express her feelings at Hazels behaviour and let us see that, like most right thinking people, she thinks Hazel should have gone too

Cant wait for Hazels Eviction interview yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy
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RUBBISH and you are very very much in the minority here. And not most right thinking people think Hazel should have gone. Jealous bitches do!!!!
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I can see why they were trying to treat the issue very sensitively and give Daley a chance to explain himself, but I would probably agree with those that say they were too lenient on him. At no point was he really pressed or put under the spotlight and it's all very well him apologising to any women that were offended but what about apologising to the woman who he actually pinned to the bed by her neck and threatened? He talked a lot about 'being a man' but then seemed to deflect responsibility and not really accept just how in the wrong he was. Would also agree that Emma didn't really go far enough to condemn what he did, a couple of times going on about how "it takes two" which is a pretty ridiculous comment in light of how far things went.
It was a total white wash of his actions. Emma was simply there to remind everyone that "it takes two to tango".

No apology to the girl whos neck he grabbed. No hard questions on his behaviour.
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Showing Hazel on the morning after her experience will not help her in the victim role.

First climbing into Daley's bed to hug him then chatting to Daley as she put on her make up and them both lightheartedly discussing what their fate might be.

Daley will be able to use that as evidence that, if anything, he is the one who had been victimised (by BB).
although tbf it was alot different from what some people were claiming early, the whole spooning and laying in bed bit? He asked her for a cuddle (for a change) which she gave him and got in his bed for a minute but jumped out again, it looked awkward and she didn't look comfortable
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Yep and do you reckon that Emma will be as gentle and understanding towards her? I'm thinking no
Going by tonight. No. She'll be left out to dry....
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although tbf it was alot different from what some people were claiming early, the whole spooning and laying in bed bit? He asked her for a cuddle (for a change) which she gave him and got in his bed for a minute but jumped out again, it looked awkward and she didn't look comfortable
Exactly, she was far more distant.
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No it wasn't
Yes it really was and she has made it clear over the last few weeks she thinks their relationship has been totally 50/50 blame wise (which it has) so this isn't some new turn up for the books omg how could Emma say this

Any reference she made to 'it takes two to tango' about the incident was about the way they were BOTH playfighting initially, which they were

That doesn't mean she's responsible for what happened so I wish some people would stop making out that some people are suggesting this but they were both initially playfighting so I'm pretty sure that's what she meant about them both being involved

Can we also just be clear that the tone of the interview and indeed the questions asked will have largely been up to the producers too, if they wanted her to be all 'URACUNT WHY DID YOU DO THIS' then they'd have said so, it was by no means a perfect interview in the sense that I don't feel as though he answered to everything he could have done but it wasn't a bad interview. I'll just reiterate something I dreaded last night...can you imagine that interview with AJ and Rylan? Paxman isn't into Big Brother so Emma's the best you're gonna get
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Showing Hazel on the morning after her experience will not help her in the victim role.

First climbing into Daley's bed to hug him then chatting to Daley as she put on her make up and them both lightheartedly discussing what their fate might be.

Daley will be able to use that as evidence that, if anything, he is the one who had been victimised (by BB).
Daley asked for a hug I think he knew at that stage he was in trouble. She went to hug him but got straight back out of his bed. She also looked uncomfortable when she was talking to him
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Emma was professional, no bias, was understanding, probed him but let him explain. Overall good interview.

Still think Daley should have apologised directly about Hazel if he scared her etc. but they will need to talk after the show. Hes pissed me off writing **** to the papers though, will only reflect bad on him.

Hazel has been great in the house about the whole thing.
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I would urge people who are disgusted by the whole thing to complain to Channel 5 on customerservices@channel5.com
I have just sent them this email:

Dear Sir/Madam,
I wish to complain about the interview with Daley Ojuederie conducted by Emma Willis on tonight's show (broadcast 16/07/13), in relation to Mr Ojuederie's aggressive and abusive attack on fellow housemate Hazel O'Sullivan and subsequent removal from the house.
Throughout the interview Ms Willis repeatedly offered platitudes to Mr Ojuederie, suggesting that he was not entirely to blame for the assault and that Ms O'Sullivan was also to blame. Ms Willis repeatedly said "It takes two to tango" suggesting equal blame on the part of Ms O'Sullivan and later said to Mr Ojuederie "There is no way you are entirely to blame for this". She also asked Mr Ojuederie his opinion on Ms O'Sullivan, suggesting that Ms O'Sullivan had in some way treated him badly.
I found the whole interview distasteful. This man, a trained boxer, put his hands around Ms O'Sullivan's throat, before pushing her down and pinning her to the bed by her arms and then threatened to "finish her" and to "nut her one". To offer the merest hint that Ms O'Sullivan was in any way to blame for any aspect of this attack is disgraceful and I am shocked and appalled at Channel 5 and Miss Willis for not only allowing a violent abuser a platform to make his excuses from, but to be complicit in those excuses.
I would suggest that Ms Willis and Channel 5 are out of touch with the realities of violent crime against women and of their viewers feelings on such matters. Indeed, many viewers in the online forum community are calling for Ms Willis' dismissal. At the very least, an apology should be made by Ms Willis for her behaviour during this interview and by Channel 5 for not only giving Mr Ojuederie a platform from which to place blame elsewhere, but for allowing the interview to be conducted in such a disgraceful manner.

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although tbf it was alot different from what some people were claiming early, the whole spooning and laying in bed bit? He asked her for a cuddle (for a change) which she gave him and got in his bed for a minute but jumped out again, it looked awkward and she didn't look comfortable
She did look very uncomfortable. She was out of that bed before she g o t in nearly.
And what was Daley leaning his arm across her while she was putting her make up on all about.
I think BB were out of order putting them both back in the same room. Put Hazel in a very awkward position.
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