[Jarvio]

Originally Posted by sway

No, its logical. Being in a boy band like 5ive doesn't exactly tick the 'I would rather read a quantum physics book than go to a party" check box on the Autism test.

I think, out of the 2, I'd rather go to a party. Sure, there'd be social difficulties, but that's what I'd rather do. On top of this I'm a musician who has performed live (although it IS nerve-racking as hell for me).

So by your logic this means I don't have aspergers then? (even though I have a diagnosis in writing, confirmed by a professional).

Not everyone who has it are the same. Not everyone will tick the same boxes.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Jarvio

I think, out of the 2, I'd rather go to a party. Sure, there'd be social difficulties, but that's what I'd rather do. On top of this I'm a musician who has performed live (although it IS nerve-racking as hell for me).

So by your logic this means I don't have aspergers then? (even though I have a diagnosis in writing, confirmed by a professional).

Not everyone who has it are the same. Not everyone will tick the same boxes.

Read my post it might help.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by sway

No, its logical. Being in a boy band like 5ive doesn't exactly tick the 'I would rather read a quantum physics book than go to a party" check box on the Autism test.

Oh, apologies, I forgot that you had to read a quantum physics book and never go to parties to be diagnosed with any form of Autism.

It's not like everyone is different is it.

[Jarvio]

When I was diagnosed with aspergers (which is an ASD) earlier this year it made perfect sense to me. Life is an enourmous challenge for me. This is why I am so insulted by many posts on this thread - accusing someone of not having the condition (and yes, it is a condition) is horrible.

It's called generalization - many of you people are generalizing, grouping people with an ASD together as the same.

I would never go on BB, I couldn't think of anything worse. But if Abz wants to, that doesn't mean anything about his condition, because Aspergers, and ASDs in general, are so damn broad. Nobody knows if anyone has it until they have been diagnosed - you need to either know the person really well, or a professional needs to do thorough tests on them. And even if you really know a person well, it can still be hard to tell. None of you people know Abz nor have done thorough tests on him. So stop assuming stuff.

Jesus christ I'm so angry at the world today regarding conditions. Can't people have a little sympathy?

I left this forum a few months ago, but I've been looking at threads without posting - I know I said I'd leave, but after seeing this thread I had to comment.

People should:
1 - Have sympathy, and
2 - Get their heads out of their arses and get on with their own lifes. If he has been diagnosed by a professional, then that's it. Don't assume the professional is wrong. Utter pretentiousness...

[DanaC]

What a fascinating insight. Thanks qwerty!

[qwerty8883]

Originally Posted by DanaC

What a fascinating insight. Thanks qwerty!

glad i could help

[CaudleHalbard]

I expect most of us can find a bit of mild Asperger's in ourselves, if we look hard enough! Lol!

[sway]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

I expect most of us can find a bit of mild Asperger's in ourselves, if we look hard enough! Lol!

Exactly my point. Being emo and having slight phases of depression does not mean your aspergic and nor does being shy or reclusive mean you have aspergers.

It's more to do with having a TALENT. people with aspergers are often GIFTED people.. its got f-all to do with it only being about social behaviours !!!!!!!!

christ almighty, if your feeling anti-social take some xanax and stay OUT of the aspergic spectrum you try hard to be in, because those who really have it stand less of a chance of recieving help!

[Jarvio]

I hope I've provided some insight too - See, I'm worrying again!

[DanaC]

You certainly did Jarvio.

I think one of the things that makes it a bit too easy for people to suggest that it is really just ordinary stuff that most of us have...is that, when reading most of the descriptions of what ASDs are like, we often see snippets to which we can relate. Many people have difficulty trusting that they have locked the door, or blown out the candles, or unplugged the iron, or whatever. We feel the need to check, for what seems like many times, but in reality may be just 2 or 3 times.

We've all experienced feeling like we have to adopt a persona in certain social situations, but though it may feel like we've played that role throughout the engagement, thinking back, we'll then find that there were also times we relaxed into the conversation and forgot to monitor what we were doing and how we were interacting.

But the scale and intensity is different. And also the critical mass of all these factors.

So people say, oh come on now, that's just shyness, by that definition I must have Aspergers, without really understanding the difference between experiencing some elements and living inside those elements.

[Jarvio]

Originally Posted by DanaC

You certainly did Jarvio.

I think one of the things that makes it a bit too easy for people to suggest that it is really just ordinary stuff that most of us have...is that, when reading most of the descriptions of what ASDs are like, we often see snippets to which we can relate. Many people have difficulty trusting that they have locked the door, or blown out the candles, or unplugged the iron, or whatever. We feel the need to check, for what seems like many times, but in reality may be just 2 or 3 times.

We've all experienced feeling like we have to adopt a persona in certain social situations, but though it may feel like we've played that role throughout the engagement, thinking back, we'll then find that there were also times we relaxed into the conversation and forgot to monitor what we were doing and how we were interacting.

But the scale and intensity is different. And also the critical mass of all these factors.

So people say, oh come on now, that's just shyness, by that definition I must have Aspergers, without really understanding the difference between experiencing some elements and living inside those elements.

Glad I provided insight. And yes I can see what you're saying (although the door thing for me literally is about 20 times lol). You're precisely correct in that it's all about scale and intensity, and how much it affects us

[Parmy]

I'm getting on in years and live with someone who's son has aspergers. She thinks I may have it because i say some innapropriate things..i told her to **** off.

[Kizzy]

That's all well and good to challenge an irrational anxiety relating to personal idiosyncrasies. I don't however see how they can be held up against an Autistic spectrum disorder.
As in your case you could recognise the irrationality of your thought process, someone with Aspergers wouldn't necessarily identify a social faux pas if they encountered it.

[kistar]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's all well and good to challenge an irrational anxiety relating to personal idiosyncrasies. I don't however see how they can be held up against an Autistic spectrum disorder.
As in your case you could recognise the irrationality of your thought process, someone with Aspergers wouldn't necessarily identify a social faux pas if they encountered it.

Well it's how I help myself and it works for me, my father is a sufferer and is one of the most confident people you could ever meet, mainly because he has no care or thought for anyone but himself , Aspergers has made him successful because his lack of empathy has made him ruthless in business and in his career , so it's not always social awkwardness.