[T*]

I definately think his ban was unfair. With a load of users that have done a lot of things off site are still here to this day, why can't Scott be? He even said to me last night he regretted everything and he's sorry, so please, give him another chance? IMO he was one of the most liveliest, funny users here.

[LemonJam]

I'm just gonna say there isn't any point in having permabans if we keep bringing people back.

[T*]

Originally Posted by SantasLittleSlut

I'm just gonna say there isn't any point in having permabans if we keep bringing people back.

It was an indefinite ban.

[Z]

Well it looks like I'm about to go completely against the grain...

If this was (more or less) any other member who had created that website, it would have been their first ever serious misdemeanour related to TiBB, they'd have been given a 3 month ban and they'd never have done something so mind numbingly stupid ever again. I don't agree that it was an off-site matter because the blog was being linked on TiBB, encouraging TiBB members to post on it, about other TiBB members. It was very much an on-site matter. But this was not any other member. This was Scott, who has been banned so many times before (including a previous permanent ban when he was pisshead, and absolutely nobody realised he was a previously banned member until he'd become a regular member as simonsays and it was probably a bit too late to ban him again) - and do you know what? I think Scott's never really taken the forum and its moderators seriously ever since. Every single time he has pushed the limit just that little bit further, he's been banned for a few months at a time and then been allowed back.

Yes, he was not the only one to post on that blog. Yes, it is unfair that everyone else hid behind anonymity and nobody else confessed to posting on it. But do you know why I think it's totally fair that Scott was banned? Because there was absolutely no reason to create that blog. It didn't start out as a blog for pictures of Simon Le Bon smiling at small children. It didn't start out as a blog dedicated solely to what the red peppers team in Ready Steady Cook had made since the show began. It was created to write offensive comments about people that use this forum. Why would we ever allow someone back who thinks so little of this place and the people on it that he wanted people to post hateful comments on it?

Scott is never going to change. He has never changed. It's not because he's an inherently horrible person, it's because his personal circumstances are complicated and while we all can understand that and feel bad for him, and we can laugh at his sense of humour when he's being funny, what nobody is willing to openly say, it seems, is that he's completely unpredictable and cannot be trusted to post on here normally because at any given moment he'll do something completely over the top and be banned for another three months. Why do we keep perpetuating the cycle? He doesn't take it seriously so why are we acting like another mid-range ban is going to sort him out?

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

Well it looks like I'm about to go completely against the grain...

If this was (more or less) any other member who had created that website, it would have been their first ever serious misdemeanour related to TiBB, they'd have been given a 3 month ban and they'd never have done something so mind numbingly stupid ever again. I don't agree that it was an off-site matter because the blog was being linked on TiBB, encouraging TiBB members to post on it, about other TiBB members. It was very much an on-site matter. But this was not any other member. This was Scott, who has been banned so many times before (including a previous permanent ban when he was pisshead, and absolutely nobody realised he was a previously banned member until he'd become a regular member as simonsays and it was probably a bit too late to ban him again) - and do you know what? I think Scott's never really taken the forum and its moderators seriously ever since. Every single time he has pushed the limit just that little bit further, he's been banned for a few months at a time and then been allowed back.

Yes, he was not the only one to post on that blog. Yes, it is unfair that everyone else hid behind anonymity and nobody else confessed to posting on it. But do you know why I think it's totally fair that Scott was banned? Because there was absolutely no reason to create that blog. It didn't start out as a blog for pictures of Simon Le Bon smiling at small children. It didn't start out as a blog dedicated solely to what the red peppers team in Ready Steady Cook had made since the show began. It was created to write offensive comments about people that use this forum. Why would we ever allow someone back who thinks so little of this place and the people on it that he wanted people to post hateful comments on it?

Scott is never going to change. He has never changed. It's not because he's an inherently horrible person, it's because his personal circumstances are complicated and while we all can understand that and feel bad for him, and we can laugh at his sense of humour when he's being funny, what nobody is willing to openly say, it seems, is that he's completely unpredictable and cannot be trusted to post on here normally because at any given moment he'll do something completely over the top and be banned for another three months. Why do we keep perpetuating the cycle? He doesn't take it seriously so why are we acting like another mid-range ban is going to sort him out?

I'm curious now. I might do my research and make a blog dedicated to that (I hope nobody else has had that idea)

[Z]

Originally Posted by Negreindeer

I'm curious now. I might do my research and make a blog dedicated to that (I hope nobody else has had that idea)

I'll follow you

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

Well it looks like I'm about to go completely against the grain...

If this was (more or less) any other member who had created that website, it would have been their first ever serious misdemeanour related to TiBB, they'd have been given a 3 month ban and they'd never have done something so mind numbingly stupid ever again. I don't agree that it was an off-site matter because the blog was being linked on TiBB, encouraging TiBB members to post on it, about other TiBB members. It was very much an on-site matter. But this was not any other member. This was Scott, who has been banned so many times before (including a previous permanent ban when he was pisshead, and absolutely nobody realised he was a previously banned member until he'd become a regular member as simonsays and it was probably a bit too late to ban him again) - and do you know what? I think Scott's never really taken the forum and its moderators seriously ever since. Every single time he has pushed the limit just that little bit further, he's been banned for a few months at a time and then been allowed back.

Yes, he was not the only one to post on that blog. Yes, it is unfair that everyone else hid behind anonymity and nobody else confessed to posting on it. But do you know why I think it's totally fair that Scott was banned? Because there was absolutely no reason to create that blog. It didn't start out as a blog for pictures of Simon Le Bon smiling at small children. It didn't start out as a blog dedicated solely to what the red peppers team in Ready Steady Cook had made since the show began. It was created to write offensive comments about people that use this forum. Why would we ever allow someone back who thinks so little of this place and the people on it that he wanted people to post hateful comments on it?

Scott is never going to change. He has never changed. It's not because he's an inherently horrible person, it's because his personal circumstances are complicated and while we all can understand that and feel bad for him, and we can laugh at his sense of humour when he's being funny, what nobody is willing to openly say, it seems, is that he's completely unpredictable and cannot be trusted to post on here normally because at any given moment he'll do something completely over the top and be banned for another three months. Why do we keep perpetuating the cycle? He doesn't take it seriously so why are we acting like another mid-range ban is going to sort him out?

I couldn't agree with you more.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

Well it looks like I'm about to go completely against the grain...

If this was (more or less) any other member who had created that website, it would have been their first ever serious misdemeanour related to TiBB, they'd have been given a 3 month ban and they'd never have done something so mind numbingly stupid ever again. I don't agree that it was an off-site matter because the blog was being linked on TiBB, encouraging TiBB members to post on it, about other TiBB members. It was very much an on-site matter. But this was not any other member. This was Scott, who has been banned so many times before (including a previous permanent ban when he was pisshead, and absolutely nobody realised he was a previously banned member until he'd become a regular member as simonsays and it was probably a bit too late to ban him again) - and do you know what? I think Scott's never really taken the forum and its moderators seriously ever since. Every single time he has pushed the limit just that little bit further, he's been banned for a few months at a time and then been allowed back.

Yes, he was not the only one to post on that blog. Yes, it is unfair that everyone else hid behind anonymity and nobody else confessed to posting on it. But do you know why I think it's totally fair that Scott was banned? Because there was absolutely no reason to create that blog. It didn't start out as a blog for pictures of Simon Le Bon smiling at small children. It didn't start out as a blog dedicated solely to what the red peppers team in Ready Steady Cook had made since the show began. It was created to write offensive comments about people that use this forum. Why would we ever allow someone back who thinks so little of this place and the people on it that he wanted people to post hateful comments on it?

Scott is never going to change. He has never changed. It's not because he's an inherently horrible person, it's because his personal circumstances are complicated and while we all can understand that and feel bad for him, and we can laugh at his sense of humour when he's being funny, what nobody is willing to openly say, it seems, is that he's completely unpredictable and cannot be trusted to post on here normally because at any given moment he'll do something completely over the top and be banned for another three months. Why do we keep perpetuating the cycle? He doesn't take it seriously so why are we acting like another mid-range ban is going to sort him out?

I agree with this.

[Jessica.]

I definitely think Scott should be unbanned, it was just a stupid mistake that he made when he was bored, it's unfortunate that it got so out of hand but honestly, he was basically just copying something that happened in a comedy film aimed at teenage girls. I bet he didn't expect the comments to be so hurtful, but I do agree that he shouldn't have allowed them to be posted. I didn't see what was posted there though, so I can't speak about that.

This forum has seriously declined in activity and conversation since Scott was banned, it's truly unfortunate and it would be so lovely to have him back. He's lovely and funny, sometimes he has bad moments like the rest of us and maybe he shouldn't bring them onto the forum but it's a part of him and I don't think he should be slandered for some things that he is not proud of. I think lots of us miss Scott and if he were to return the forum would be buzzing.

Free Scott.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Jessus

I definitely think Scott should be unbanned, it was just a stupid mistake that he made when he was bored, it's unfortunate that it got so out of hand but honestly, he was basically just copying something that happened in a comedy film aimed at teenage girls. I bet he didn't expect the comments to be so hurtful, but I do agree that he shouldn't have allowed them to be posted. I didn't see what was posted there though, so I can't speak about that.

This forum has seriously declined in activity and conversation since Scott was banned, it's truly unfortunate and it would be so lovely to have him back. He's lovely and funny, sometimes he has bad moments like the rest of us and maybe he shouldn't bring them onto the forum but it's a part of him and I don't think he should be slandered for some things that he is not proud of. I think lots of us miss Scott and if he were to return the forum would be buzzing.

Free Scott.

He also completely missed the point of that comedy film aimed at teenage girls - that the burn book is bad, upset everyone and got everyone who was involved in it into a lot of trouble. So, you know, life imitating art there - someone with no thought for others doing something mean spirited and being punished accordingly.

How many times has Scott been banned for a stupid mistake he made when he's been bored? Too many to count. I'm sick of it. I liked Scott but I'm just a bit sick of him pulling the same stunts every time he's bored and looking for a cheap thrill. I don't think Scott returning to the forum would make it suddenly a more active place - he's one person. Maybe we could, just, you know, post more as a forum. Create more threads. This place is what we make of it.

[T*]

Originally Posted by Jessus

I definitely think Scott should be unbanned, it was just a stupid mistake that he made when he was bored, it's unfortunate that it got so out of hand but honestly, he was basically just copying something that happened in a comedy film aimed at teenage girls. I bet he didn't expect the comments to be so hurtful, but I do agree that he shouldn't have allowed them to be posted. I didn't see what was posted there though, so I can't speak about that.

This forum has seriously declined in activity and conversation since Scott was banned, it's truly unfortunate and it would be so lovely to have him back. He's lovely and funny, sometimes he has bad moments like the rest of us and maybe he shouldn't bring them onto the forum but it's a part of him and I don't think he should be slandered for some things that he is not proud of. I think lots of us miss Scott and if he were to return the forum would be buzzing.

Free Scott.

This

[Me. I Am Salman]

Yes, it's just a big brother forum in the end of the day

[smeagol]

I dont know them and dont know anything but no one should get life bans unless they post about joining a 20 something group lol
i think at the end of the year they should go through the ban list and unban everybody as a amnesty with the notion that if they do anything really major then thats it.
its just a forum after all. can easily ban again if naughty hobbitses lol

though i never see the point in banning anyway. its actually impossible to ban someone for good if they know how to get by it.

[MeMyselfAndI]

I liked seneta (or however you spell his name) he should be unbanned, Wombai too, she was lovely.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndLeona

I liked seneta (or however you spell his name) he should be unbanned, Wombai too, she was lovely.

I liked Wombia too,wondered what had happened to her

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndLeona

I liked seneta (or however you spell his name) he should be unbanned, Wombai too, she was lovely.

No.

[T*]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndLeona

I liked seneta (or however you spell his name) he should be unbanned, Wombai too, she was lovely.

Are you having a laugh

[Glenn.]

Scott's ban needs to be reconsidered

[Z]

I think Scott's ban should only be reconsidered if other people are willing to come forward and face consequences of that burn blog. Seems like a fair trade to me. It's the reason he was put on an indefinite ban because nobody else could be held accountable for it.

[Drew.]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

I think Scott's ban should only be reconsidered if other people are willing to come forward and face consequences of that burn blog. Seems like a fair trade to me. It's the reason he was put on an indefinite ban because nobody else could be held accountable for it.

Some of the people who made comments about certain members on that blog probably act friendly towards them on here, nobody's going to own up to that.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Santi Claus

Some of the people who made comments about certain members on that blog probably act friendly towards them on here, nobody's going to own up to that.

Of course they won't, but I think it's crap to try and wipe what Scott's blog did clean when he got made into a scape goat for its entire contents and I'd imagine a few of the people being vocal about him returning were involved in some of the bile posted on there. Glenn's freely admitted to posting stuff and Lucas did too, we've since spoken about it and we're cool, but I would imagine there are a lot of people who posted on there that have never admitted to it.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

I think Scott's ban should only be reconsidered if other people are willing to come forward and face consequences of that burn blog. Seems like a fair trade to me. It's the reason he was put on an indefinite ban because nobody else could be held accountable for it.

I don't quite agree with that....people now are not going to come forward but Scott has already paid for their cowardice during this ban.

[Z]

Originally Posted by Angel~Annie

I don't quite agree with that....people now are not going to come forward but Scott has already paid for their cowardice during this ban.

Well then he should remain banned. If people who were involved are happy for him to be the only one punished, then he should remain the only one punished. We've no way of finding out or proving who was involved unless people admit to it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

I think Scott's ban should only be reconsidered if other people are willing to come forward and face consequences of that burn blog. Seems like a fair trade to me. It's the reason he was put on an indefinite ban because nobody else could be held accountable for it.

Now theres an interesting thought..I would bet that the majority of the comments were made by scotts 'friends' and those who are currently campaigning for him to come back too.

As for the ban itself, I dont agree that there should be a definite time frame tbh. Otherwise we would have just put a 3/6 month or whatever ban on. I will be honest and say I dont really know what an indefinite ban is, but its a lot better than the other option, which would have been a permaban.

This

Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

Well it looks like I'm about to go completely against the grain...

If this was (more or less) any other member who had created that website, it would have been their first ever serious misdemeanour related to TiBB, they'd have been given a 3 month ban and they'd never have done something so mind numbingly stupid ever again. I don't agree that it was an off-site matter because the blog was being linked on TiBB, encouraging TiBB members to post on it, about other TiBB members. It was very much an on-site matter. But this was not any other member. This was Scott, who has been banned so many times before (including a previous permanent ban when he was pisshead, and absolutely nobody realised he was a previously banned member until he'd become a regular member as simonsays and it was probably a bit too late to ban him again) - and do you know what? I think Scott's never really taken the forum and its moderators seriously ever since. Every single time he has pushed the limit just that little bit further, he's been banned for a few months at a time and then been allowed back.

Yes, he was not the only one to post on that blog. Yes, it is unfair that everyone else hid behind anonymity and nobody else confessed to posting on it. But do you know why I think it's totally fair that Scott was banned? Because there was absolutely no reason to create that blog. It didn't start out as a blog for pictures of Simon Le Bon smiling at small children. It didn't start out as a blog dedicated solely to what the red peppers team in Ready Steady Cook had made since the show began. It was created to write offensive comments about people that use this forum. Why would we ever allow someone back who thinks so little of this place and the people on it that he wanted people to post hateful comments on it?

Scott is never going to change. He has never changed. It's not because he's an inherently horrible person, it's because his personal circumstances are complicated and while we all can understand that and feel bad for him, and we can laugh at his sense of humour when he's being funny, what nobody is willing to openly say, it seems, is that he's completely unpredictable and cannot be trusted to post on here normally because at any given moment he'll do something completely over the top and be banned for another three months. Why do we keep perpetuating the cycle? He doesn't take it seriously so why are we acting like another mid-range ban is going to sort him out?

says it all tbh. Scott has been banned so many times, had a 3 month, a 6 month AND a permaban before and stuff like this still happens. Also there was more to scotts ban than just the burn blog..as he knows himself too.

I wouldn't be totally opposed to him coming back, I quite like scott. But its just ridiculous that so many members have so little respect for the rules, and then have people willing to stand their corner when they **** up again. Its so annoying. No matter what some people do, its not them in the wrong for some reason.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I would bet that the majority of the comments were made by scotts 'friends' and those who are currently campaigning for him to come back too.

I consider Scott a friend of mine here and I guess you could say I've campaigned for him to be allowed back, I did make this rather amazing pic

Spoiler:

However I did not post in this blog, I didn't even see the thing, not to say I'm an angel, I'm not sure what I would have done had I seen the thing. But yea I didn't even get to read it like the majority of people here, if I had I'd have a better understanding of who and how many were affected by it.

Also I think turning this thread into a witch hunt is wrong.