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Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

I think Scott's ban should only be reconsidered if other people are willing to come forward and face consequences of that burn blog. Seems like a fair trade to me. It's the reason he was put on an indefinite ban because nobody else could be held accountable for it.

Now theres an interesting thought..I would bet that the majority of the comments were made by scotts 'friends' and those who are currently campaigning for him to come back too.

As for the ban itself, I dont agree that there should be a definite time frame tbh. Otherwise we would have just put a 3/6 month or whatever ban on. I will be honest and say I dont really know what an indefinite ban is, but its a lot better than the other option, which would have been a permaban.

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Originally Posted by The baby Zeesus

Well it looks like I'm about to go completely against the grain...

If this was (more or less) any other member who had created that website, it would have been their first ever serious misdemeanour related to TiBB, they'd have been given a 3 month ban and they'd never have done something so mind numbingly stupid ever again. I don't agree that it was an off-site matter because the blog was being linked on TiBB, encouraging TiBB members to post on it, about other TiBB members. It was very much an on-site matter. But this was not any other member. This was Scott, who has been banned so many times before (including a previous permanent ban when he was pisshead, and absolutely nobody realised he was a previously banned member until he'd become a regular member as simonsays and it was probably a bit too late to ban him again) - and do you know what? I think Scott's never really taken the forum and its moderators seriously ever since. Every single time he has pushed the limit just that little bit further, he's been banned for a few months at a time and then been allowed back.

Yes, he was not the only one to post on that blog. Yes, it is unfair that everyone else hid behind anonymity and nobody else confessed to posting on it. But do you know why I think it's totally fair that Scott was banned? Because there was absolutely no reason to create that blog. It didn't start out as a blog for pictures of Simon Le Bon smiling at small children. It didn't start out as a blog dedicated solely to what the red peppers team in Ready Steady Cook had made since the show began. It was created to write offensive comments about people that use this forum. Why would we ever allow someone back who thinks so little of this place and the people on it that he wanted people to post hateful comments on it?

Scott is never going to change. He has never changed. It's not because he's an inherently horrible person, it's because his personal circumstances are complicated and while we all can understand that and feel bad for him, and we can laugh at his sense of humour when he's being funny, what nobody is willing to openly say, it seems, is that he's completely unpredictable and cannot be trusted to post on here normally because at any given moment he'll do something completely over the top and be banned for another three months. Why do we keep perpetuating the cycle? He doesn't take it seriously so why are we acting like another mid-range ban is going to sort him out?

says it all tbh. Scott has been banned so many times, had a 3 month, a 6 month AND a permaban before and stuff like this still happens. Also there was more to scotts ban than just the burn blog..as he knows himself too.

I wouldn't be totally opposed to him coming back, I quite like scott. But its just ridiculous that so many members have so little respect for the rules, and then have people willing to stand their corner when they **** up again. Its so annoying. No matter what some people do, its not them in the wrong for some reason.