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Old 21-02-2015, 12:06 PM #101
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I think what we have learned from this thread is:

Cats are evil and must, at all costs, be destroyed.

They are the ISIS of the animal world
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For the first time ever, I agree with LT!

Humans are simply animals that have evolved in a different way. Forget the "macro" and "micro" evolution 'differences' taught in RE, it's all the same thing. We are animals therefore equal to them, imo.
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Humans are simply animals that have evolved in a different way. Forget the "macro" and "micro" evolution 'differences' taught in RE, it's all the same thing. We are animals therefore equal to them, imo.
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Humans are simply animals that have evolved in a different way. Forget the "macro" and "micro" evolution 'differences' taught in RE, it's all the same thing. We are animals therefore equal to them, imo.
in the grand scheme of things I don't think we're more important than animals but as a human I value humans more than animals. In the grand scheme of things I don't think we're important at all
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I doubt your satanic magic will make us agree on everything..
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If you want to look at the dark side of humanity and use it as a stick to beat us over the head with then you need to balance it out with the good too. Humans are incredibly social animals who are capable of empathy/altruism and love and huge levels of co-operation to attain certain goals.
I agreed with you right up to reading the word altruism and then I disagreed with you
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in the grand scheme of things I don't think we're more important than animals but as a human I value humans more than animals. In the grand scheme of things I don't think we're important at all
This for me too.
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Not intrinsically or inherently no, humans are very self-centred and up ourselves when it comes to thinking we're above everyone and everything as a species. And I say this as someone that really isn't fussed about animals at all (well, apart from cats).

But looking out for your own? Yeah, I get that, so to humans other human life is more important than an animals, but objectively it isn't. If that makes sense...
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Not intrinsically or inherently no, humans are very self-centred and up ourselves when it comes to thinking we're above everyone and everything as a species. And I say this as someone that really isn't fussed about animals at all (well, apart from cats).

But looking out for your own? Yeah, I get that, so to humans other human life is more important than an animals, but objectively it isn't. If that makes sense...
It does.That's how i think of it too.
This question i think has a different answer depending on wether you look at it completely objectively or through our human eyes.Imo.
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I would always save the human if it came to it. Humans have legitimate family bonds, I know some animals do but not in this country so if it came down to a human v animal I would have to save the human for the sake of the parents, children. I couldn't forgive myself if I save an animal and left a child without a parent or parent without a child. So for that reason I would hold human life as more important than animals.

I love animals though.
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Plugging your altruism thread in here, shame on you demo
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I would always save the human if it came to it. Humans have legitimate family bonds, I know some animals do but not in this country so if it came down to a human v animal I would have to save the human for the sake of the parents, children. I couldn't forgive myself if I save an animal and left a child without a parent or parent without a child. So for that reason I would hold human life as more important than animals.

I love animals though.
This exactly and I adore my pets. I dont think that makes me less of an animal lover either
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