[michael21]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I'm reading up about it now and have been for a couple of days. I mentioned it to my GP yesterday too and she has no problems with it, reckons it does good as long as its short term.

So heres the deal.

Apparently it detoxes your body and has been known to 'cure' health conditions. As I am getting next to no help with my ribs and painkillers have completely stopped working and docs are still no closer to discovering what the problem actually is, this is kinda a last resort.

At the same time..I have weight to lose. And apparently this is a quick way to lose it. I have slipped into terrible eating habits and have now put back on everything I lost after having James 10 months ago. I think losing around 2 stone would be good.

I'm thinking of doing 14 days. Apparently when you break the fast too, your body craves healthy food, so this would be a way to sort my diet out at the same time (been eating so much crap and craving chocolate so bad...)

I'm just wondering if anyone has had any success, or knows anyone that has...either from the weight loss perspective or the health benefits side of it. The health part is much more important to me than the weight loss, and there does seem to be a lot about it on the internet, but I don't trust google too much tbh. I don't want to get my hopes up too much for nothing

I done a chocolate milkshake fast before where I drunk it fast

[Kizzy]

I have no gall bladder and I already have NAFLD :/ I only have 1 fruit juice in the morning and the rest of the day I have vegetable juices, I'm aiming for 60 days will post the results of my bloods then, fingers crossed.

[Kizzy]

2st down!

[kirklancaster]

I always use plates full of boiled cabbage and snacks of boiled beetroots eaten like apples along with regular glasses of water, which fill the stomach so less food is consumed at mealtimes. It really does help to lose weight painlessly and safely.

[Kizzy]

All that would achieve is flatulence

[Jords]

I dont believe in fad diets. A healthy balanced diet is key!

Cut down on your carb (e.g. pasta, rice, white bread) and sugar (e.g. drinks, chocolate, sweets) intake and overall portions.
Dont skip breakfast and only have healthy snacks like fruit/light crackers/handful of nuts etc.
Drink plenty of water and avoid fizzy drinks.
Maximise on protein and salad/veg!

A good tip is to not have the "bad foods" in the house, or at least not too much.
Also avoid takeaways, maybe have a treat day so you dont crave. If you have fish and chips, dont get it battered, if you have kebabs get shish meat instead of donner and avoid the naan/pitta bread etc.

Diet acquaints for around 70% of a healthy lifestyle - so try and include a little exercise. It recently got brought to my attention that more muscle = more calories burned so I recommend building a little muscle if possible. The focus is to be in a deficit of the recommended daily calories... Do an online test because weight, height, gender and age or play a role on what this may be.

You will lose weight and feel healthier!

Edit: Another tip is to have a high rich protein snack between lunch and tea around 3-4pm... boosts metabolism and keeps hunger at bay e.g. nuts, boiled eggs, protein shake or bar

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jords

I dont believe in fad diets. A healthy balanced diet is key!

Cut down on your carb (e.g. pasta, rice, white bread) and sugar (e.g. drinks, chocolate, sweets) intake and overall portions.
Dont skip breakfast and only have healthy snacks like fruit/light crackers/handful of nuts etc.
Drink plenty of water and avoid fizzy drinks.
Maximise on protein and salad/veg!

A good tip is to not have the "bad foods" in the house, or at least not too much.
Also avoid takeaways, maybe have a treat day so you dont crave. If you have fish and chips, dont get it battered, if you have kebabs get shish meat instead of donner and avoid the naan/pitta bread etc.

Diet acquaints for around 70% of a healthy lifestyle - so try and include a little exercise. It recently got brought to my attention that more muscle = more calories burned so I recommend building a little muscle if possible. The focus is to be in a deficit of the recommended daily calories... Do an online test because weight, height, gender and age or play a role on what this may be.

You will lose weight and feel healthier!

Edit: Another tip is to have a high rich protein snack between lunch and tea around 3-4pm... boosts metabolism and keeps hunger at bay e.g. nuts, boiled eggs, protein shake or bar

Great post, Jords. A healthy balanced diet is the only way to go. Fasting is fine... long-term fasting is a fad. And let's face it... you are the voice of experience.

Hope you had a lovely birthday xx

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Livia

Great post, Jords. A healthy balanced diet is the only way to go. Fasting is fine... long-term fasting is a fad. And let's face it... you are the voice of experience.

Hope you had a lovely birthday xx

Thanks Livia! I am now on a tone-up mission... it takes agesssss

And I did thank you lovely

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jords

Thanks Livia! I am now on a tone-up mission... it takes agesssss

And I did thank you lovely

You're really an inspiration x

[Kizzy]

The reason for the thread was improved health not weight loss, this for me has just been a happy accident as I had weight to lose it was not the primary aim.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The reason for the thread was improved health not weight loss, this for me has just been a happy accident as I had weight to lose it was not the primary aim.

It all goes hand in hand.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jords

It all goes hand in hand.

What does...if you're experiencing inflammation and/or pain and you suspect a food intolerance how would a balanced diet help to identify this?

[Jords]

cba with your awkward examples Kiz

Im obviously speaking generally

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jords

cba with your awkward examples Kiz

Im obviously speaking generally

This isn't a losing weight in general thread is it? The reasons and examples of why this was started have been apparent throughout the the thread and my posts on the topic if you had looked.

[Jords]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

This isn't a losing weight in general thread is it? The reasons and examples of why this was started have been apparent throughout the the thread and my posts on the topic if you had looked.

The thread is about health.

Im not replying to you after this cus quite frankly you know my suggestions were through a health lens as well as a weight loss lens. A balanced diet will make you healthier than any fad diet including this "water fast", and if you control it to promote weight loss, you will further see improvements in your health. With consideration of intolerances, of course.

Too argumentative for your own good Kiz. Youre not always 'Miss Right'.

Good day.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jords

The thread is about health.

Im not replying to you after this cus quite frankly you know my suggestions were through a health lens as well as a weight loss lens. A balanced diet will make you healthier than any fad diet including this "water fast", and if you control it to promote weight loss, you will further see improvements in your health. With consideration of intolerances, of course.

Too argumentative for your own good Kiz. Youre not always 'Miss Right'.

Good day.

You haven't read my posts obviously Jords, I'm not doing or would ever do a water fast.
Wag your finger all you like I'm well aware of what constitutes a healthy diet thank you.

[rubymoo]

I can't wait for you to get your results Kizzy. You've done really well keeping up with the juicing, i'm so pleased you're finding that it's working for you, what are the main things (healthwise) that you've noticed have improved?

I've found for me that the minute i stop taking pro-biotics, coconut water and my morning smoothie, inflammation seems to rear it's head (and candidia) i can literally feel an uncomfortable heat that starts under my right rib and goes vertically down to my right hip, i was wondering to myself....what organs are there??? Gall bladder, could be pancreas, kidney, liver, these have all been checked via an ultrasound scan, i had an x-ray of my lungs in April and nothing showed on this, it then dawned on me that this is the area of my large intestine, so i started up with the coconut water and probiotics (i also try to keep as gluten free as possible) and the uncomfortable heat/ache seems to be dwindling away.

(And thanks for voting for mei was having a bad day that day and to read that i was your juicing friend really made my day, it's amazing how the effect of kind words can lift you up into such happiness)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I can't wait for you to get your results Kizzy. You've done really well keeping up with the juicing, i'm so pleased you're finding that it's working for you, what are the main things (healthwise) that you've noticed have improved?

I've found for me that the minute i stop taking pro-biotics, coconut water and my morning smoothie, inflammation seems to rear it's head (and candidia) i can literally feel an uncomfortable heat that starts under my right rib and goes vertically down to my right hip, i was wondering to myself....what organs are there??? Gall bladder, could be pancreas, kidney, liver, these have all been checked via an ultrasound scan, i had an x-ray of my lungs in April and nothing showed on this, it then dawned on me that this is the area of my large intestine, so i started up with the coconut water and probiotics (i also try to keep as gluten free as possible) and the uncomfortable heat/ache seems to be dwindling away.

(And thanks for voting for mei was having a bad day that day and to read that i was your juicing friend really made my day, it's amazing how the effect of kind words can lift you up into such happiness)

No worries anytime ruby it's great to have someone that understands that trying to maintain your health isn't always that simple. Yep that too is my biggest problem inflammation :/ I have painful lipomas on my right side that flared up and caused a lot of pain before the juicing. I've been put under a rheumatologist and have physio too although I'm not sure how much of my muscle weakness is related or due to the hypermobility causing increased age related change :/

I too take a probiotic and now B12 as I'm effectively raw vegan, losing weight has really helped both with the pain and the exercise as it's improved my range of movement and energy levels massively, although I'm aware it's not a long term fix and I'm looking forward to adding foods back into my diet. The most important thing I guess is to try identify foods that trigger the inflammation response and avoid those.
I'm also hoping that I've managed to reverse my NAFLD as the way it was going NASH ( Nonalcoholic Steatohepatitis) was on the cards and that's irreversible I'm due bloods in august so fingers crossed.

The only sure fire way to check for gluten intolerance/coeliac disease is a liver biopsy so if you are feeling better avoiding gluten then I say carry on, you don't need it and there are plenty of alternatives
One thing to mention is to keep moving, stretches and core exercises keep your trunk strong and stops your bowels and lymphatic system from getting sluggish which will help rid you of toxins.

Keep me posted on how you're doing Ruby it's great to bounce ideas about this while doctors push us from pillar to post x

[Jords]

[Kizzy]

It's 60 days on friday but I'm extending my fast for a month...

[Kizzy]

60 days! I changed my mind about extending the fast though, going to yoga and swimming now so need some cals for that. Adding an evening vegetarian meal in for the next month.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

60 days! I changed my mind about extending the fast though, going to yoga and swimming now so need some cals for that. Adding an evening vegetarian meal in for the next month.

How are you feeling Kizzy? Have you had any tests that show improvement? You are an absolute superstar for keeping the juicing up, you have some will power and determination there! (Can you bottle me up some and send it)

Did you try the coconut water? Coconut water for me is amazing, it seems to ease inflammation quickly.

Have you thought about having your first meal at lunch (i call it dinner) time? As that's when the stomach is at it's strongest.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

How are you feeling Kizzy? Have you had any tests that show improvement? You are an absolute superstar for keeping the juicing up, you have some will power and determination there! (Can you bottle me up some and send it)

Did you try the coconut water? Coconut water for me is amazing, it seems to ease inflammation quickly.

Have you thought about having your first meal at lunch (i call it dinner) time? As that's when the stomach is at it's strongest.

Isn't that a sure way to an ulcer

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Isn't that a sure way to an ulcer

Why would she get an ulcer

When i said strongest, i didn't mean with acid, it just makes sense to eat a larger meal that requires digesting at lunchtime, as smoothies require very little digestion. (They're still digested, it's just the body doesn't have to work as hard to break it down as it's all liquid).


http://healthland.time.com/2013/07/2...he-days-meals/

http://consciousfood.co.uk/why-ayurv...improve-yours/
Of course it's up to Kizzy when she eats her meals, it was just a suggestion.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Why would she get an ulcer

When i said strongest, i didn't mean with acid, it just makes sense to eat a larger meal that requires digesting at lunchtime, as smoothies require very little digestion. (They're still digested, it's just the body doesn't have to work as hard to break it down as it's all liquid).


http://healthland.time.com/2013/07/2...he-days-meals/

http://consciousfood.co.uk/why-ayurv...improve-yours/
Of course it's up to Kizzy when she eats her meals, it was just a suggestion.

Oh when you said first meal I thought you meant skipping breakfast!