[Ninastar]

bringing this from the other thread because the other one is about the police officers

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings, given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots.

If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood.

There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem. Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone.

"The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings,"

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

"given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots. "

I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason'

"If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood. "

I'm not going to talk about this because it opens a new argument which I will probably upset people with.

"There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem."

I can understand why you feel this way, I really do. I just don't think this is being reported fairly and whilst I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened.

I think this woman gets the point across better than me. I know its about Mike Brown but the point still stands (towards the end more so)

Youtube video

"Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone."

Again I can totally see why you'd think this, but again I don't think 'police brutality' is any where near as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm going to pinch Maru's post because she summed it up perfectly and we all know I'm not good with words.

"National media is basically tabloids disguised as real news on TV 24/7. It is 95% entertainment, 4.9% headlines, .1% facts. 100% of the coverage is Donald Trump, BLM, evil law enforcement, dead people, mass shootings and constant coverage of celebrity deaths (like Anna Nicole Smith, who cares ). Donald Trump gets more coverage than the superbowl. A racist self-absorbed prick's opinion is more important than delivering the facts around majorly important issues. Ok.

If you listened to national media all day you would think our society has gone insane, but it's a major distortion of life here that people eat it up because it adds color and meaning to their otherwise mundane lives. Disenfranchised people want other people to blame. Businesses want other parties to be responsible for their failures. The public hear that actual effort won't fix the issues, but getting attention and promoting violence will (by suggesting people will arm themselves or go to the streets)."

This makes me sound like an awful, naive, uneducated person but I'm not, lol. Being a minority myself, I'd hate to see another minority being treated unfairly because of who they are. I just don't think that in most cases the media is talking about is actually what the media tells us.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

bringing this from the other thread because the other one is about the police officers




"The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings,"

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

"given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots. "

I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason'

"If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood. "

I'm not going to talk about this because it opens a new argument which I will probably upset people with.

"There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem."

I can understand why you feel this way, I really do. I just don't think this is being reported fairly and whilst I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened.

I think this woman gets the point across better than me. I know its about Mike Brown but the point still stands (towards the end more so)

Youtube video

"Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone."

Again I can totally see why you'd think this, but again I don't think 'police brutality' is any where near as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm going to pinch Maru's post because she summed it up perfectly and we all know I'm not good with words.

"National media is basically tabloids disguised as real news on TV 24/7. It is 95% entertainment, 4.9% headlines, .1% facts. 100% of the coverage is Donald Trump, BLM, evil law enforcement, dead people, mass shootings and constant coverage of celebrity deaths (like Anna Nicole Smith, who cares ). Donald Trump gets more coverage than the superbowl. A racist self-absorbed prick's opinion is more important than delivering the facts around majorly important issues. Ok.

If you listened to national media all day you would think our society has gone insane, but it's a major distortion of life here that people eat it up because it adds color and meaning to their otherwise mundane lives. Disenfranchised people want other people to blame. Businesses want other parties to be responsible for their failures. The public hear that actual effort won't fix the issues, but getting attention and promoting violence will (by suggesting people will arm themselves or go to the streets)."

This makes me sound like an awful, naive, uneducated person but I'm not, lol. Being a minority myself, I'd hate to see another minority being treated unfairly because of who they are. I just don't think that in most cases the media is talking about is actually what the media tells us.

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

It would be ridiculous if you re not part of a certain demographic or haven't experienced it yourself. But having said that it's not that ridiculous because this has been going on for long time, people are only talking about it more now thanks t the help of social media. When you have tapes like MARK FURHMAN where he admits to targeting black people and planting evidence against them, it's not a far fetched concept that this sort of thing goes on.
Those numbers are debatable, there's different numbers everywhere. But the thing is if continuous unlawful killings happened to whites you can bet your ass the families wouldn't stay quiet, there would be world wide support and generally when things happen to white people new laws or acts are written in. This is why white people favor cops rather than blacks, they mostly have to deal with the police if they deserve it.

''I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason' ''

White people have a voice on twitter too. If it happened to them unlawfully on a regular basis we would hear about, simple.

'' I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened. ''

Eric Garner had his hands up, Alton Sterlin was pinned down, Philando Castille was reaching for his ID, Rodney king was beaten repeatedly by 4 cops as he lay on the ground...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

It would be ridiculous if you re not part of a certain demographic or haven't experienced it yourself. But having said that it's not that ridiculous because this has been going on for long time, people are only talking about it more now thanks t the help of social media. When you have tapes like MARK FURHMAN where he admits to targeting black people and planting evidence against them, it's not a far fetched concept that this sort of thing goes on.
Those numbers are debatable, there's different numbers everywhere. But the thing is if continuous unlawful killings happened to whites you can bet your ass the families wouldn't stay quiet, there would be world wide support and generally when things happen to white people new laws or acts are written in. This is why white people favor cops rather than blacks, they mostly have to deal with the police if they deserve it.

''I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason' ''

White people have a voice on twitter too. If it happened to them unlawfully on a regular basis we would hear about, simple.

'' I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened. ''

Eric Garner had his hands up, Alton Sterlin was pinned down, Philando Castille was reaching for his ID, Rodney king was beaten repeatedly by 4 cops as he lay on the ground...

just taking one item here:

Philando Castille was reaching for his ID

can you tell me and the thread

1. apart from his girlfriend saying so how you know this is true?
2. how you know he had id in his pocket?
3. how you know he did not have a gun in his pocket and was going for that?


I am making no call either way in this case as I have no clue what went on but I would welcome your reply as you seem to have more information than what I have seen

[Crimson Dynamo]

A suburban Minnesota police officer who shot and killed a black motorist was reacting to the man's gun, not his race, the officer's attorney said Saturday


Philando Castile failed to comply with a "do not move" order, which lead to Yanez opening fire.

In addition, police scanner audio appears to indicate Yanez telling Dispatch he was pulling the car over because Castile fit the description of a wanted suspect in a armed robbery that took place a few days prior. The officer briefly describes Castille before exiting his cruiser.

Kelly told Fox News that if Yanez pulled Castille over that day because he believed him to fit the description of a wanted armed robbery suspect, the officer was doing "good police work and approved police work." He called this a "standard investigatory stop."

Castile's girlfriend Diamond Reynolds was in the car and streamed the immediate aftermath of the shooting live on Facebook. She has said Yanez shot Castile several times after he told the officer he had a gun and a permit for it and then reached for his wallet.

Yanez "was reacting to the actions of the driver," Kelly said. "This had nothing to do with race. This had everything to do with the presence of a gun."

A clearly distraught person who appears to be a police officer stands at the car's window, tells her to keep her hands up and says: "I told him not to reach for it. I told him to get his hand out."

Court records show the traffic stop was at least the 52nd time Castile, a 32-year-old school cafeteria supervisor, had been pulled over in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area since 2002.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/07/10...wyer-says.html

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

bringing this from the other thread because the other one is about the police officers




"The difference is that they were more likely to be lawful shootings,"

I don't believe that for a second. To assume that a white officer would just kill someone because they are black is absolutely ridiculous. If you look at all those killed by the police this year, more white people have been killed than black/mexican people combined. Just because we don't have recordings of white people being shot 'for no reason' doesn't mean that it doesn't happen.

"given how the phrase 'Black Lives Matter' causes certain white people to froth at the mouth in rage how do you think they'd react if a white person was executed by the police in a similar fashion to these killings? There'd be riots. "

I don't think there would be. Social media tends to be quite biased in the favour of minorities (I'm not saying thats a bad thing) and I don't think that there'd be anywhere near as bad a reaction if a white person was killed 'for no reason'

"If what happened to Tamir Rice happened to a white child there'd be calls for blood. "

I'm not going to talk about this because it opens a new argument which I will probably upset people with.

"There's an imbalance here, I'm not against lawful killings if there's no other way but considering it feels like there's a new incident like this happening every other week it feels foolish to deny there's a problem."

I can understand why you feel this way, I really do. I just don't think this is being reported fairly and whilst I do feel bad for the families, I think that most of the people who have been killed by police could have had it prevented if they had just listened.

I think this woman gets the point across better than me. I know its about Mike Brown but the point still stands (towards the end more so)

Youtube video

"Nothing will change if we bury our heads in the sand but if the american people take a stand against Police Brutality then it benefits everyone."

Again I can totally see why you'd think this, but again I don't think 'police brutality' is any where near as bad as the media makes it out to be. I'm going to pinch Maru's post because she summed it up perfectly and we all know I'm not good with words.

"National media is basically tabloids disguised as real news on TV 24/7. It is 95% entertainment, 4.9% headlines, .1% facts. 100% of the coverage is Donald Trump, BLM, evil law enforcement, dead people, mass shootings and constant coverage of celebrity deaths (like Anna Nicole Smith, who cares ). Donald Trump gets more coverage than the superbowl. A racist self-absorbed prick's opinion is more important than delivering the facts around majorly important issues. Ok.

If you listened to national media all day you would think our society has gone insane, but it's a major distortion of life here that people eat it up because it adds color and meaning to their otherwise mundane lives. Disenfranchised people want other people to blame. Businesses want other parties to be responsible for their failures. The public hear that actual effort won't fix the issues, but getting attention and promoting violence will (by suggesting people will arm themselves or go to the streets)."

This makes me sound like an awful, naive, uneducated person but I'm not, lol. Being a minority myself, I'd hate to see another minority being treated unfairly because of who they are. I just don't think that in most cases the media is talking about is actually what the media tells us.

You are good with words, don't put yourself down, there's no need too.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Oh regarding Mike Brown stealing, this lady needs to be informed and not only go with what the media says. There is a video of Mike Brown paying.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I feel like the guy in a wheelchair and people are talking to my carer and not me

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I feel like the guy in a wheelchair and people are talking to my carer and not me

Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bre...lando-castile/

So from a distance the officer was able to spot a wide set nose that resembled one from a suspect-how close was he driving to spot this nose? 🤔 When you stop someone for suspected robbery you're not going to tell them you suspect them you ask for ID which he did, he must've have mentioned the taillight as a reason to stop them instead to hide the true intentions so I don't think the gf was lying because she wouldn't pick up the camera and lie so blatantly with the officer there. Castille didn't have to tell him he had a gun but he did for his knowledge and as per American law he had a right to carry that gun. Castille has no harsh criminal record, mostly traffic offices ( which we know thanks to the media always rushing for any criminal record when a black person is involved in anything and even indeed that gorilla incident) - he wasn't allowed to drive, he wasn't. I doubt he was going to shoot this man in front of a 4 yr old.

We need to verify that this new audio from the officer is authentic.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bre...lando-castile/

So from a distance the officer was able to spot a wide set nose that resembled one from a suspect-how close was he driving to spot this nose? 🤔 When you stop someone for suspected robbery you're not going to tell them you suspect them you ask for ID which he did, he must've have mentioned the taillight as a reason to stop them instead to hide the true intentions so I don't think the gf was lying because she wouldn't pick up the camera and lie so blatantly with the officer there. Castille didn't have to tell him he had a gun but he did for his knowledge and as per American law he had a right to carry that gun. Castille has no harsh criminal record, mostly traffic offices ( which we know thanks to the media always rushing for any criminal record when a black person is involved in anything and even indeed that gorilla incident) - he wasn't allowed to drive, he wasn't. I doubt he was going to shoot this man in front of a 4 yr old.

We need to verify that this new audio from the officer is authentic.

This info has already been posted in the thread and the fact it was a suspected robbery stop has been confirmed by the officer's attorney


I posted this just after i posted 3 questions for you that you must have forgotten to answer

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Hush, Cherie is doing your sponge bath at 6.

I think you should take over the sponging as you think LT isn't capable of rational thought

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I think you should take over the sponging as you think LT isn't capable of rational thought

Last time I tried he called the cops and they tried to shoot me.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Nixon signs bill to limit access to police videos what's spurred this on?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Last time I tried he called the cops and they tried to shoot me.

Standard procedure.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

The fear is that the released video can provide the full context.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

The fear is that the released video can provide the full context.

incorrect

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

incorrect

Correct as nobody would know Eric Garner had his hands up or that Mike Brown actually paid

[Alf]

Diamond and Silk

Youtube video

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Alf

Diamond and Silk

Youtube video

Summarise ain't nobody got time to watch 20 min foolery.

Why don't all rights matter when gays fight for rights? Everyone has to impose themselves when blacks fight for rights?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Alf

Diamond and Silk

Youtube video

Few minutes in

" most of those cops act on fear. Mostly fear of the black men- we don't know why they're afraid. Maybe one of them shot them, shot their family " yes let's stereotype black men and focus on to the root of the cops fear but not the black mans


Let's sit down and solve he problem on he table. Whose table? How long have black people been either marching or talking about the problem even on the news but they're shot down?

" Left wing media is trying to divide us by saying a white cop shot a black man-bonus points for unarmed" sigh how much did he pay these 2 heffas

Ok fine all lives matter. But can we still discuss the Mark Furhmans , the Eric Garners?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Few minutes in

" most of those cops act on fear. Mostly fear of the black men- we don't know why they're afraid. Maybe one of them shot them, shot their family " yes let's stereotype black men and focus on to the root of the cops fear but not the black mans


Let's sit down and solve he problem on he table. Whose table? How long have black people been either marching or talking about the problem even on the news but they're shot down?

" Left wing media is trying to divide us by saying a white cop shot a black man-bonus points for unarmed" sigh how much did he pay these 2 heffas

Ok fine all lives matter. But can we still discuss the Mark Furhmans , the Eric Garners?

Do you know how many black peoples lives are saved by the Police in the USA every year?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Do you know how many black peoples lives are saved by the Police in the USA every year?

And what does that have to do with innocent black people being executed by officers that are bumbling an incompetent at best or who are guilty of racially motivated murder at worst?

One doesn't cancel out the other. it's very peculiar how eager you are to brush incidents like this under the carpet.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and still waiting for you to reply to post 117

seems that the cat has got your tongue?

[lewis111]

Watching the way Blacks are treated at the peaceful protests is so discomforting