[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Corbyn would defend Putin.

He's already condemned Putin so why would he defend him?

Anyway Russia wouldn't be able to cope with starting a war because they have pissed off every single country they have no allies

Apart from China who are more than capable of carrying out a wide scale war. And North Korea would join them.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

He's already condemned Putin so why would he defend him?



Apart from China who are more than capable of carrying out a wide scale war. And North Korea would join them.

Russia lost a lot of freinds in China over North Korea

[Denver]

And North Korea isn't much of a threat

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Adam.

America has already said they are on Britains side

me SHOOK

[Denver]

Also don't the UK and China have a strong relationship?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by jet

You've changed - very recently you were saying it was a relatively minor incident and how the gov. were over - reacting big time (or words to that effect.)

Yes. Over-reacting and risking a major international incident by poking and prodding at cold war tensions needlessly. These are not contradictory statements.

However at the moment I'm just more bewildered about the fact that this has been (here, and across the media) turned into yet another UK domestic politics playground spat. Just ridiculous . Great Britain, ladies and gentlemen .

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes. Over-reacting and risking a major international incident by poking and prodding at cold war tensions needlessly. These are not contradictory statements.

However at the moment I'm just more bewildered about the fact that this has been (here, and across the media) turned into yet another UK domestic politics playground spat. Just ridiculous . Great Britain, ladies and gentlemen .

Indeed, it is madness at the moment.

[Twosugars]

TS has a point. Turning this into party politics is not helpful.
UK and the West need to be consistent and show Russia they have had enough of the interference.
Williamson's comment was childish though, but then again Russian Embassy's tweets have been pure trolling.

[Nicky91]

i side with the UK now

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

And North Korea isn't much of a threat

The threat of NK comes not from the country itself but the fact that a conflict with NK could easily spin into another World War.

[jet]

Glushkov's death now a murder enquiry.


https://news.sky.com/story/british-p...ondon-11292406

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes. Over-reacting and risking a major international incident by poking and prodding at cold war tensions needlessly. These are not contradictory statements.

However at the moment I'm just more bewildered about the fact that this has been (here, and across the media) turned into yet another UK domestic politics playground spat. Just ridiculous . Great Britain, ladies and gentlemen .

Corbyn is 100% to blame for that. If he had supported the government, which is the norm on occasions like this, no matter who is in power, there would be no issue. Corbyn decided to be an idiot and try and point score.

[arista]

Originally Posted by jet

Glushkov's death now a murder enquiry.


https://news.sky.com/story/british-p...ondon-11292406

The Hit Man had Gloves on.
I assume.
No cameras, No Security Film?

Case will get closed

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jet

Glushkov's death now a murder enquiry.


https://news.sky.com/story/british-p...ondon-11292406

I'm not surprised but so far it doesn't have a connection with Sergei Skripal.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Putin is basically the russian Trump


both unstable world leaders

For Sure

[jet]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I'm not surprised but so far it doesn't have a connection with Sergei Skripal.

It seems not. They are saying Russia asked for him to be extradited in 2015 but Britain refused.

[jet]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Corbyn is 100% to blame for that. If he had supported the government, which is the norm on occasions like this, no matter who is in power, there would be no issue. Corbyn decided to be an idiot and try and point score.

You hit the nail on the head yet again.

[DemolitionRed]

Good god, we have just moved 2 notches further into the Cold War and we are still point scoring about Corbyn!

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Corbyn is 100% to blame for that. If he had supported the government, which is the norm on occasions like this, no matter who is in power, there would be no issue. Corbyn decided to be an idiot and try and point score.

This exactly.

[jet]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Good god, we have just moved 2 notches further into the Cold War and we are still point scoring about Corbyn!

His point scoring stance and the reaction to it from the public and his own party are very topical at the moment. Are you suggesting we should all pull together at a time like this - just like Corbyn did?

[Twosugars]

Glushkov was connected to Berezovsky, who died in mysterious circumstances.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-verdict-death

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

i side with the UK now

Good decision, Donald.
You can get a golden shower here too, y'know.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Good god, we have just moved 2 notches further into the Cold War and we are still point scoring about Corbyn!

Yes but the entire country is the same, apparently. Increasing tensions with Russia and every tabloid front page is plastered with headlines about Corbyn... The leader of the UK opposition. Its beyond bizarre but it quite aptly sums up how petty, insular and self-important the UK is becoming.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes but the entire country is the same, apparently. Increasing tensions with Russia and every tabloid front page is plastered with headlines about Corbyn... The leader of the UK opposition. Its beyond bizarre but it quite aptly sums up how petty, insular and self-important the UK is becoming.

Better to delude ourselves with hating Corbyn then to focus on the fact we're sliding right into a potential world War 3 situation, I guess.

[Northern Monkey]

This is heating up and it is worrying.
I don’t know if i have confidence in either Labour or the Tories on this.
Corbyn did try and score points the other day by going on about diplomat cuts after it’d just happened which was not the time and tbh i don’t think he’s strong enough to run a bath nevermind a country and deal with people such as Putin.
However i do wonder if May could use abit of his caution.
We definitely do need a leader who has the balls to stand up and be strong in times like these and to give us confidence but we don’t want to rush headlong into possibly irreversible decisions either.
With how delicate this situation is i’m thinking she was maybe abit hasty.When we’re hearing things like it was “more than likely” the Russian state.Is that good enough really?Should’nt we be sure before expelling 23 diplomats and taking other harsh measures against a military superpower?
She gave Russia 24 hours to give an explanation before she acted.She knew she wouldn’t get one because Russia doesn’t respond to ultimatums.
What if this wasn’t a government sanctioned hit?What if this Novichok was leaked to somebody by someone lower down than Putin who wanted to stir up a diplomatic crisis before his election?
It may not be likely but possible.Even Theresa May said they could have “lost control” of it.
Should we as a country be acting so strongly on “more than likelies”?
Maybe it would’ve been wise to let the investigation go on abit longer for more certainty.
Gavin Williamson’s speech was nothing more than embarrassing.He didn’t sound tough,diplomatic or intelligent.I mean “shut up and go away”.Come on.