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ChristmasNeeve · 09-08-2019, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

How long has that been the case?

Abbey Veterinary Centre - advised 'declawing'. Or did as little as 4 years back. They appear to be part of larger chains too.

What is declawing?
Declawing involves the removal or part removal of a cat’s digital phalanges – the bone to which the claw is attached. Whilst the practice of declawing is relatively popular in the USA (an estimated 25% of domestic cats are declawed in the US), it is declining in popularity, thanks to anti-cruelty campaigns and being banned in some states. In the UK, declawing cats for any non-medical reason was officially made illegal in 2006, and is now punishable with a £20,000 fine and/or up to a year in prison.

https://pawpost.co.uk/blog/blog/2016.../#.XU1Db-NKgnQ

Vicky. · 09-08-2019, 09:53 AM

Bloody hell. I wonder if its worth reporting now? I guess it will be my word vs theirs, but surely others will have been 'advised' the same, or taken them up on it..

Is it one of those things where they can claim 'medical reason' for anything..possibly. Where those words basicaslly make it legal..

Nicky91 · 09-08-2019, 09:54 AM

i sometimes don't get why people would have pets in the first place then, if they don't like 1) licking of a dog since that is common what dogs do, and 2) sharp claws of a cat, since that declawing sounds quite a disgusting and painful procedure

Twosugars · 09-08-2019, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky.

How long has that been the case?

Abbey Veterinary Centre - advised 'declawing'. Or did as little as 4 years back. They appear to be part of larger chains too.

Avoid chains if you can, a general rule for choosing a vet

Vicky. · 09-08-2019, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Avoid chains if you can, a general rule for choosing a vet

Yeah, so we found out!

Twosugars · 09-08-2019, 09:58 AM

People like the Kennel Club have a lot to answer for when it comes to breeding.
That's why BBC dumped Crufts.
Many big breeds have dysplasia bc of ridiculous breed standards

Nicky91 · 09-08-2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

People like the Kennel Club have a lot to answer for when it comes to breeding.
That's why BBC dumped Crufts.
Many big breeds have dysplasia bc of ridiculous breed standards

Crufts is something what isn't animal cruelty, not by far (my mom agrees with me about this, and she's against a lot of animal cruelty herself, she just doesn't these videos anymore because that makes her cry all the time)

me and my parents watched a lot of Crufts during our america holidays, which is coincidentally on at the time of our holidays

bots · 09-08-2019, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

Crufts is something what isn't animal cruelty, not by far (my mom agrees with me about this, and she's against a lot of animal cruelty herself, she just doesn't these videos anymore because that makes her cry all the time)

me and my parents watched a lot of Crufts during our america holidays, which is coincidentally on at the time of our holidays

Crufts and the kennel club perpetuate the need to produce a perfect dog. There is no such thing, never has been and as such, they are a disgrace continuing the practice for their own profit.

Candy Annie Cane · 09-08-2019, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Crufts and the kennel club perpetuate the need to produce a perfect dog. There is no such thing, never has been and as such, they are a disgrace continuing the practice for their own profit.

Agree, seeing how so many breeds have changed over the years due to inbreeding is heartbreaking. Snouts shorter causing breathing problems - the British Bulldog is unrecognisable to what it originally looked like.

Kazanne · 09-08-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Crufts and the kennel club perpetuate the need to produce a perfect dog. There is no such thing, never has been and as such, they are a disgrace continuing the practice for their own profit.

Totally agree Bots,just no need for it at all.All dogs are beautiful and don't need changing, that is what I don't like about humans,they think they have the God given right to alter things that they don't find pleasing to the eye.

Nicky91 · 09-08-2019, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Crufts and the kennel club perpetuate the need to produce a perfect dog. There is no such thing, never has been and as such, they are a disgrace continuing the practice for their own profit.

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Totally agree Bots,just no need for it at all.All dogs are beautiful and don't need changing, that is what I don't like about humans,they think they have the God given right to alter things that they don't find pleasing to the eye.

i do agree with this, but one of my former fb friends Liss Jones (yes same girl who did the voice uk many years back) (when i was on fb myself) does go to these sort of events like crufts with her bulldog bear, and she treats her dog like a true princess, but yet has won medals with her too

Vicky. · 09-08-2019, 10:43 AM

Beauty pageant type things never sit right with me, not sure why. That includes animal ones tbh.

Parmy · 09-08-2019, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91

i do agree with this, but one of my former fb friends Liss Jones (yes same girl who did the voice uk many years back) (when i was on fb myself) does go to these sort of events like crufts with her bulldog bear, and she treats her dog like a true princess, but yet has won medals with her too

I bet the dog is so pleaseD with its rosette.

Gstar · 09-08-2019, 11:10 AM

She’s cancelled

Twosugars · 09-08-2019, 11:29 AM

The problem with the Kennel Club is it's made up of former and current breeders.
Take just one breed, the German shepherd. The idiotic breed description calls for a sloping back. As a result the hip socket is underdeveloped and legs come out of the joint leading to pain and disability.
Less said about the short snouts the better or about malformed skulls where brain doesn't have enough room and dogs suffer from seizures and pain.
Somewhere along the line those breeders forgot about dogs in their competitive outdoing of one another

ChristmasNeeve · 09-08-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

The problem with the Kennel Club is it's made up of former and current breeders.
Take just one breed, the German shepherd. The idiotic breed description calls for a sloping back. As a result the hip socket is underdeveloped and legs come out of the joint leading to pain and disability.
Less said about the short snouts the better or about malformed skulls where brain doesn't have enough room and dogs suffer from seizures and pain.
Somewhere along the line those breeders forgot about dogs in their competitive outdoing of one another

My favourite breed along with Border Collies

Parmy · 09-08-2019, 11:35 AM

Don't pure pedigrees have mental issues?

Twosugars · 09-08-2019, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

My favourite breed along with Border Collies

Both at the top for me too, plus some non-drooling mastiffs and rottweiler.

After our late mastiff who was beautiful inside and out, we have a soft spot for big dogs with chunky paws and square snouts

ChristmasNeeve · 09-08-2019, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Both at the top for me too, plus some non-drooling mastiffs and rottweiler.

After our late mastiff who was beautiful inside and out, we have a soft spot for big dogs with chunky paws and square snouts

I love big dogs aswell but I just don't have the time(or energy) to be able to commit to properly looking after a big dog

Kizzy · 09-08-2019, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

She was trying to do her you tubing into the camera bit the dog kept leaping up at her wanting to play... she spat on it...whilst disciplining it.

Total rubbish! .. you don't train anything through fear, that's not how the police or any responsible owner would train a dog! To encourage trust and respect reward and praise trains dogs.
You hit or spit at anything it's abuse plain and simple.

I'm sure you've seen some scrote batter his dog till it cowers at his side, but trust me that's not how you train a dog.

Twosugars · 09-08-2019, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

I love big dogs aswell but I just don't have the time(or energy) to be able to commit to properly looking after a big dog

I think they are easier to look after than some highly strung little thing

Big dogs dont bark too much or get into scraps bc they have nothing to prove. And they tend to be very gentle and patient.

Vicky. · 09-08-2019, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

My favourite breed along with Border Collies

Labradors for me. Eventually I want to get one of theoe but really I need to be better first so I can walk it loads..as fairly sure Gavin will say he will do it but then not want to if its raining, etc. Kids will say and do the same. So I cannot really get one until I know for sure it will get enough excercise.
We always had a labrador growing up, and andrex puppies are just bloody beautiful!

Prefer a golden one, but brown would do too I guess.

They are great with kids, or ours always have been. So docile but..playful at the same time.

Twosugars · 09-08-2019, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Total rubbish! .. you don't train anything through fear, that's not how the police or any responsible owner would train a dog! To encourage trust and respect reward and praise trains dogs.
You hit or spit at anything it's abuse plain and simple.

I'm sure you've seen some scrote batter his dog till it cowers at his side, but trust me that's not how you train a dog.

Exactly right.
Dogs are intelligent and sensitive.
Beating a creature that is at your mercy is a despicable thing.