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[A glum-looking Labour deputy leader Lucy Powell
is pictured watching on as votes are counted
in the Gorton and Denton by-election]
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Pathetic Labour came 3rd



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I thought the results would be tighter than that, I was nearly certain it would be Green-Reform-Labour, but I didn't think Reform would be closer to Labour numberswise than Green.
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This is what the centre, centre left and left need to do.
To more get behind who can beat Reform.

Labour were never going to win this even moreso after the Andy Burnham farce.

I don't like Polanski at all but far better a Green Party win than a Reform one.
Who knows, maybe the old order is going to change big time now.
With Labour thought to be more failing than not.
Plus Badenoch just making the Conservatives more and more irrelevant.

The vast majority of younger and new voters, well it appears they support mostly the Greens and then Labour.
Rejecting the hate fuelling scapegoating of Reform.
This result if it shows anything, as to one thing, shows how to stop Reform.
Ensuring voting for who can beat beat Reform.
I can get behind that definitely.
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By-elections are always a protest vote, all we know is that labour are currently out of favour. As to Burnham, i think it would have been an even bigger defeat if he had participated
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By-elections are always a protest vote, all we know is that labour are currently out of favour. As to Burnham, i think it would have been an even bigger defeat if he had participated
Why do you think that?

Im not a Burnham fan by any means (i think hes a media *****) but he is pretty universally liked here
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Worst case scenario for Labour really as they're now haemorrhaging votes to both the Left and Right. I've never believed in electoral reform but it might be inevitable now that two party politics seems dead

As for family voting well yeah.. we all know what's going on there. Rich for Labour to complain though as they've always been a shoe-in in high proportion Islamic areas until now
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Why do you think that?

Im not a Burnham fan by any means (i think hes a media *****) but he is pretty universally liked here
I agree.
I actually do like him a lot, I know you have reservations on him Annie.

I think he'd have much more than likely come through to win this.
I think preventing him standing only helped to lose this by-election.

The turnout too was quite high, 47% in relation to only 59% voting in the 2024 general election across the Nation.
That was rather high in a by- election really.
In fact it was under 49% in the general election in this seat.

Well done to the Greens, Labour voters did switch too,to help beat Reform.
However I'm smiling this morning because there's NOT another awful hate fuelling Reform MP going to parliament.
Reform must have thought Matt Goodwin would walk this.
I'm overjoyed he didn't.

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Oh the joys of Muslim sectarianism.
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Oh the joys of Muslim sectarianism.
That's probably what really won it - pandering to Palestine, having Spencer cover her hair and lick the floor in a mosque ...
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Wow huge loss for Labour
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