[InOne]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

OT and NT? Are these upgrades?

They can be whatever you want them to be good sir

[Sticks]

The Old Testament covers from the beginning to the last of the prophets before the 400 years of silence

The New Testament covers the life of Christ and the beginning of the church plus letters from apostles and others

The old Testament had prophecies that would later be fulfilled in the New Testament, a prominent on being found in Isaiah 53

The main problem over the centuries has been how Christianity was warped, twisted and misrepresented by a corrupt Roman Catholic church leadership. (I say the leadership as some of those in the lower ranks were more decent and were lied to as well by the leadership) Critics of Christianity as a whole ignore the fact that also through the centuries there were a number of people who did not toe the RC line and we got movements like the reformation and the restoration movements.

In the 18th and 19th century there was a good tradition of Dissenters who did not follow either the Roman church or the Anglican one set up by Henry VIII

Now getting back to the base question underlying things here, the best way to learn about God, IMHO is not by studying dusty dry books on theology, but by studying the sciences. In my field, Physics, We have the Anthropic Cosmological Principal, (Which is not the same as the discredited Intelligent Design), the irony of this is that the ACP was derived by atheists, which according to them shows that the universe is designed for man.

As for evil pain and suffering, a lot of that has been caused by man exercising his free will and making wrong choices. Some of these wrong choices may even have been made by people long dead, but their effects still follow on and affect us to this day.

[Sticks]

The Old Testament covers from the beginning to the last of the prophets before the 400 years of silence

The New Testament covers the life of Christ and the beginning of the church plus letters from apostles and others

The old Testament had prophecies that would later be fulfilled in the New Testament, a prominent on being found in Isaiah 53

The main problem over the centuries has been how Christianity was warped, twisted and misrepresented by a corrupt Roman Catholic church leadership. (I say the leadership as some of those in the lower ranks were more decent and were lied to as well by the leadership) Critics of Christianity as a whole ignore the fact that also through the centuries there were a number of people who did not toe the RC line and we got movements like the reformation and the restoration movements.

In the 18th and 19th century there was a good tradition of Dissenters who did not follow either the Roman church or the Anglican one set up by Henry VIII

Now getting back to the base question underlying things here, the best way to learn about God, IMHO is not by studying dusty dry books on theology, but by studying the sciences. In my field, Physics, We have the Anthropic Cosmological Principal, (Which is not the same as the discredited Intelligent Design), the irony of this is that the ACP was derived by atheists, which according to them shows that the universe is designed for man.

As for evil pain and suffering, a lot of that has been caused by man exercising his free will and making wrong choices. Some of these wrong choices may even have been made by people long dead, but their effects still follow on and affect us to this day.

[Vicky.]

You know, I have sat and thought a few times (usually when stoned or something) about if a group of us today sat down and wrote a few books about a miracle worker etc etc...and they surfaced a few hundred years in the future...would this create a brand new religion and people who took every word we said in those books as truth and started to worship the main character.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

You know, I have sat and thought a few times (usually when stoned or something) about if a group of us today sat down and wrote a few books about a miracle worker etc etc...and they surfaced a few hundred years in the future...would this create a brand new religion and people who took every word we said in those books as truth and started to worship the main character.

It's certainly not impossible Vicky nor even unlikely.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's certainly not impossible Vicky nor even unlikely.

We could put a load of new 'rules' in it.

Thou shall dress up in a banana costume and worship the biggest oak tree within a 10 mile radius every thursday evening at 8pm or else you will be smited by the giant donkey god of Azerbaijan.

And such

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

We could put a load of new 'rules' in it.

Thou shall dress up in a banana costume and worship the biggest oak tree within a 10 mile radius every thursday evening at 8pm or else you will be smited by the giant donkey god of Azerbaijan.

And such

[Josy]

I was always told when I was younger that animals went to rainbow bridge

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

We could put a load of new 'rules' in it.

Thou shall dress up in a banana costume and worship the biggest oak tree within a 10 mile radius every thursday evening at 8pm or else you will be smited by the giant donkey god of Azerbaijan.

And such

I wouldn't be at all surprised if some did it too,to the letter.

[Sticks]

And are we supposed to forward that on to 10 friends if we are not heartless cruel Nuns

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Sticks

And are we supposed to forward that on to 10 friends if we are not heartless cruel Nuns

[InOne]

Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? - Douglas Adams

[Pyramid*]

[Livia]

... and it obviously had a blowing exhaust because "Moses' triumph was heard all over Egypt".

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Livia

Why not? They hard cars. It's in the Bible. "...and Moses came down the mountain in his Triumph".

Originally Posted by Livia

... and it obviously had a blowing exhaust because "Moses' triumph was heard all over Egypt".