[arista]

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I feel nothing but sympathy for the family, and I was quite shocked at the news of the nurses death, but nothing was intended maliciously as far as I am concerned, so why put the DJ's through so much more than they are going through already? They will live with this for the rest of their lives. I would not wish that on anyone. I am sure most of us have laughed at prank calls before, but now, because of a terrible and unfortunate sequence of events, some want to lay the blame at their door. That's a matter of opinion, but I do not think they should be punished. The guilt and regret that they will have to live with is punishment enough.

I doubt the media frenzy around this story is helping the family in their grieving process.

Yes its a stuck forever
but those DJ's could become Preachers or something
in America.

Life is a Never Ending Story
for the early years

[waterhog]

Radio Na Na 10.12.12

this is not about the music,
Queen i will never tarnish,
and what has happened,
2dayFM will never get varnish.
this was no "Bohemian",
it was a "Death on 2 legs" prize,
because it was all about humiliation,
not any "Free love exercise".
it was not "A kind of magic",
we have no "Champion" to parade,
i feel so much for Jacina family,
the only comfort is in "heaven she will have made".
how is Mel and Micheal feeling,
can there pain we measure,
it really was a cheap stunt,
as we can see "Pain is so close to pleasure".
today i have seen a "sorry",
on tv they said it was "Foolin around",
but this can be no "Breakthru",
Australia and the UK will never have the Spanish "Barcelona" bound.
i don't think both will ever work,
because to "Fall was a hammer",
both are "Under so much pressure",
the Queen will not be feeling the glamour.
i am sorry Brian, John and Roger,
Freddie can see how i stole "radio Ga Ga",
but unlike your music,
this poem like the prank will be remembered as a "Radio Na Na".

[iRyan]

IMO, it's not the radio presenters fault - it's the media. It was probably all the media backlash about her being an idiot that led her to kill herself. Once again the media is the cause yet they put the blame on someone else.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

I don't get why they keep using the "We tried 5 times to get through to the Hospital to get consent" argument to defend themselves. It's hard to believe they tried it 5 times yet still broadcast it anyway... And if they did it was pretty silly, for something like that they should've waited until they got consent.

True. But that's the fault of the producers of the show. They call the shots.

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Cry you bitch

You're pathetic. Anyone would think they went out and deliberately murdered this woman.

You are just like the press, whipping up a huge frenzy over it which would have been the bigger contributing factor to what that nurse eventually did.

Originally Posted by arista

Yes a illegal prank
No Permission given.


The first day they loved it
Promo for their little station.
Getting New Ratings etc


Life is Tough

That's out of the two radio presenter's hands. The fault for that goes to the show's producers and lawyers who gave the go ahead for it to be broadcast before getting permission.

[arista]

"You are just like the press, whipping up a huge frenzy over it which would have been the bigger "



Spiffing Marsh

[Marsh.]

Life with Common Sense.

[arista]

The Family of the Nurse

[Livia]

I thought the interview with the two radio presenters was very cynical. Allowing them to express their "grief", the male describing his feelings as "gutted", the woman with her tear-streaked face, pleading their innocence, and arguing that the responsibility for what they did lay with someone else. They were happy enough to play this prank, now they have to face the consequences. I remember Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross playing a radio prank. I don't recall them ever refusing to accept liability for what they did.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

I thought the interview with the two radio presenters was very cynical. Allowing them to express their "grief", the male describing his feelings as "gutted", the woman with her tear-streaked face, pleading their innocence, and arguing that the responsibility for what they did lay with someone else. They were happy enough to play this prank, now they have to face the consequences. I remember Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross playing a radio prank. I don't recall them ever refusing to accept liability for what they did.

100% agree Livia,they put on a good show ,my sympathy lies with the dead womans family.

[MTVN]

They were right in what they said though; nobody could ever have predicted such a consequence from this, and that prank phone calls have been around on radio for years, there wasn't anything malicious in what the DJs were doing. The prank call should have been obvious to anyone really it was so ridiculous; pretending to ask Charles to give the Queen a lift, going on about her corgis etc. they couldn't have expected to even get through never mind for someone to possibly take their own life as a result

What is the right way for them to react to this happening exactly?

[BBfanUSA]

So wait they could go to jail because they didn't get permission from all parties? Isn't the station manager responsible for that? Shouldn't the manager be the one charged?

[Livia]

These are two broadcasting professionals we're talking about. Although the company that broadcast the piece will also be liable, the DJs themselves came up with it, they carried it out and now they must be responsible (even though it will be jointly with producers) for what they did.

[BBfanUSA]

Originally Posted by Livia

These are two broadcasting professionals we're talking about. Although the company that broadcast the piece will also be liable, the DJs themselves came up with it, they carried it out and now they must be responsible (even though it will be jointly with producers) for what they did.

Eh,Good Point.

I completely agree that someone should be charged because they never got permission from all parties.

(There's a radio show in the US where they do prank calls all the time. They make sure before they air the calls they get permission form all parties and they air the disclaimer after the prank is over, It shouldn't be that hard to get permission from all parties. )

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Livia

These are two broadcasting professionals we're talking about. Although the company that broadcast the piece will also be liable, the DJs themselves came up with it, they carried it out and now they must be responsible (even though it will be jointly with producers) for what they did.

Responsible for what exactly...playing a prank making a prank telephone call to a Hospital (which backfired tragically ) or are they in some way responsible for this woman's suicide.

I think not, the prank was not aimed at the woman, in fact it had nothing to do with the woman, she merely answered the phone and then afterwards for other more serious reasons decided to end her life.

Whilst I commiserate with her family I do not think the two radio presenters in question should be put into this current media circus with tearful interviews etc... The should have put out statement expressing regret for the unforseen actions of this lady and left it at that and moved on with their lives. They were not responsible directly or indirectly for this womans death. Sound minded people do not kill themselves after receiving a prank telephone call meant for someone else...its utterly absurd to pin any blame on these two presenters.

Seeing them on the news in the last few days in tears, crying, grief stricken is a ridiculous over reaction.....!!!

[Vicky.]

No way was this all just over the prank. She clearly had mental issues beforehand and this was kinda..the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

I dont think the DJS should have to answer to anyone. It was just a prank, I doubt they thought it would work. The media for making it into a massive thing, and sorry to say it but the nurse herself for not knowing her job (patient confidentiality and such) are to blame for what happened.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No way was this all just over the prank. She clearly had mental issues beforehand and this was kinda..the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.

I dont think the DJS should have to answer to anyone. It was just a prank, I doubt they thought it would work. The media for making it into a massive thing, and sorry to say it but the nurse herself for not knowing her job (patient confidentiality and such) are to blame for what happened.

I have to agree with this, that woman had 2 children, there must have been something else going on to make her take her life. I don't mean to be insensitive but killing yourself and leaving your children motherless over this is just unfathomable tbqh

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No way was this all just over the prank. She clearly had mental issues beforehand and this was kinda..the straw that broke the camels back so to speak.
I dont think the DJS should have to answer to anyone. It was just a prank, I doubt they thought it would work. The media for making it into a massive thing, and sorry to say it but the nurse herself for not knowing her job (patient confidentiality and such) are to blame for what happened.

It's all very easy to say stuff like this but how do you actually know? It seems to always be the excuse when stuff like that happens.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

It's all very easy to say stuff like this but how do you actually know? It seems to always be the excuse when stuff like that happens.

If it is just over this though, it seems like a very drastic thing to do, as the mother of two children.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Christmas Neeve

If it is just over this though, it seems like a very drastic thing to do, as the mother of two children.

Well we can't really say the pressure she was under, and Hospitals are always getting a bashing here anyway. Plus the fact it was to do with the Royals made it 10x worse. She was a Catholic apparently, so she must've been extreme pressure she was under to take her own life. What is annoying is that the DJ's seem to be getting more support and sympathy than the family of the Woman who killed herself.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

Well we can't really say the pressure she was under, and Hospitals are always getting a bashing here anyway. Plus the fact it was to do with the Royals made it 10x worse. She was a Catholic apparently, so she must've been extreme pressure she was under to take her own life. What is annoying is that the DJ's seem to be getting more support and sympathy than the family of the Woman who killed herself.

I understand that and of course I have sympathy for her family. The reason it seems like the DJ's are getting more sympathy is because they're also the ones who are being blamed for her killing herself. Can you really blame them for something she chose to do herself though?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

It's all very easy to say stuff like this but how do you actually know? It seems to always be the excuse when stuff like that happens.

Just seems a massive overreaction for the situation, thats all. Made worse because she was a mother, surely she wouldnt (in the 'right' frame of mind) kill herself over something as trivial as this. Yes, she may have been sacked/disciplined..surely her kids having a mother is more important though?

And if she thought this was something to commit suicide over and it WAS all down to this prank and nothing else, that says (to me anyway) that she wasnt mentally stable to begin with.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just seems a massive overreaction for the situation, thats all. Made worse because she was a mother, surely she wouldnt (in the 'right' frame of mind) kill herself over something as trivial as this. Yes, she may have been sacked/disciplined..surely her kids having a mother is more important though?

And if she thought this was something to commit suicide over and it WAS all down to this prank and nothing else, that says (to me anyway) that she wasnt mentally stable to begin with.

All the aspects didn't help probably. The prank, the fact it was to do with the Royals, she got into serious trouble with work and then it became global news. As it said, she would've felt such shame. Also in the article there is no mentions of any previous mental illness or home troubles. She was a popular well liked person. It doesn't always take mentally unstable people to commit suicide like that if a situation arises.

[Irene Pearson]

Originally Posted by Scrooge

All the aspects didn't help probably. The prank, the fact it was to do with the Royals, she got into serious trouble with work and then it became global news. As it said, she would've felt such shame. Also in the article there is no mentions of any previous mental illness or home troubles. She was a popular well liked person. It doesn't always take mentally unstable people to commit suicide like that if a situation arises.

Is this an informed comment? or guesswork

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Just seems a massive overreaction for the situation, thats all. Made worse because she was a mother, surely she wouldnt (in the 'right' frame of mind) kill herself over something as trivial as this. Yes, she may have been sacked/disciplined..surely her kids having a mother is more important though?

And if she thought this was something to commit suicide over and it WAS all down to this prank and nothing else, that says (to me anyway) that she wasnt mentally stable to begin with.

All of this^

There are people who want to use the DJs as targets. I watched their interview on Sky News and they were genuinely distressed. Obviously anyone in their shoes would feel awful about the situation. But, nobody could have foreseen the outcome.

I'm no psychiatrist, but I'm pretty sure anyone who takes their own life is not in a good place mentally.

I fail to see how she could reach that place simply from the pressure of a mistake (and let's not forget she did make a mistake) at work.

I reckon there's more to this story, and to this woman. She was a devout catholic as far as I'm aware, and we all know how suicide is viewed by the catholic church.

A lot of people want to point the finger at the DJs, and for that reason they'll pick apart every little thing they do.

But, the bottom line is this... It doesn't matter which hospital you work in, or who the patient is.. you DO NOT EVER give out patient information on the telephone. That much is made clear at interview stage.

So, how a woman who worked in a hospital which cared for such high profile patients did not know this basic rule is beyond me.

[Kizzy]

The husband seems to be very angry with he hospital, it would be interesting to know how much pressure they placed on her following the incident.
Ultimately though the blame rests on a catalogue of errors. The decision to telephone the hospital, the act itself and the failure to secure permission to broadcast.