[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by the truth

The brits saved the lives of 1000s of jews and even gave up properties and food during the war and times of ration to feed and clothe these jewish people. So your points on the Jews in Britain and grossly exaggerated and offensive

And we are now saving the lives of thousands of Muslims but that doesn't mean everyone agrees with that.

My husband is the direct descendant of a Jewish boy who fled with a grandparent from Warsaw. They had to change their family name when they got here and were warned not to let neighbours or schoolmates know where they had come from.

Grossly exaggerated ? http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/j...publicservices

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump UK ban petition passes 200,000 signatures

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

Trump UK ban petition passes 200,000 signatures

[bots]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

Trump UK ban petition passes 200,000 signatures

if the option to ban his hair was included it would be over 1 million already

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Elf On Strike

if the option to ban his hair was included it would be over 1 million already

[kirklancaster]

So let's put this in perspective:

Donald Trump, the 'Front Runner' in the USA's Republican Candidate race, and therefore a legitimate politician, makes suggestions about banning all Muslims from the USA as a temporary precautionary measure until the current Islamic terrorist war on America is over - remarks which are undeniably, ludicrous, offensive and xenophobic but yet still legitimate under the US Laws on Free Speech - and over 300,000 UK 'citizens' sign a petition to ban him from the UK?

Trump has not tried to radicalise young Americans to go out and kill Muslims. Nor has he issued any threats to the UK or its people.

Can ANYONE on here recall ANY type of PUBLIC petition to expel evil Finsbury Islamic Hate Preacher and young Muslim radicaliser Abu Hamza who DID issue threats against the UK and its people?

Or how about evil Muslim solicitor, young Muslim radicaliser, and hate preacher Anjem Choudary who hailed as 'heroes' the terrorists responsible for the '911' atrocity in 2001, and the 7th of July 2005 attacks,and who DID pose a threat and issue threats against the UK and its people?

Or even evil Hate Preacher Mizanur Rahman who praised the Charlie Hebdo terrorist killers, and who hates Britain and calls us "The enemy of Islam"

I don't care what anyone else thinks, I would bet my last pound coin that the architects of this ridiculous pathetic 'Petition' do not have British interests at heart, and the sensationalising of it is rib-ticklingly hilarious because even if 500,000 sign it, that still leaves 54 or so million WHO HAVE NOT SIGNED IT.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

So let's put this in perspective:

Donald Trump, the 'Front Runner' in the USA's Republican Candidate race, and therefore a legitimate politician, makes suggestions about banning all Muslims from the USA as a temporary precautionary measure until the current Islamic terrorist war on America is over - remarks which are undeniably, ludicrous, offensive and xenophobic but yet still legitimate under the US Laws on Free Speech - and over 300,000 UK 'citizens' sign a petition to ban him from the UK?

Trump has not tried to radicalise young Americans to go out and kill Muslims. Nor has he issued any threats to the UK or its people.

Can ANYONE on here recall ANY type of PUBLIC petition to expel evil Finsbury Islamic Hate Preacher and young Muslim radicaliser Abu Hamza who DID issue threats against the UK and its people?

Or how about evil Muslim solicitor, young Muslim radicaliser, and hate preacher Anjem Choudary who hailed as 'heroes' the terrorists responsible for the '911' atrocity in 2001, and the 7th of July 2005 attacks,and who DID pose a threat and issue threats against the UK and its people?

Or even evil Hate Preacher Mizanur Rahman who praised the Charlie Hebdo terrorist killers, and who hates Britain and calls us "The enemy of Islam"

I don't care what anyone else thinks, I would bet my last pound coin that the architects of this ridiculous pathetic 'Petition' do not have British interests at heart, and the sensationalising of it is rib-ticklingly hilarious because even if 500,000 sign it, that still leaves 54 or so million WHO HAVE NOT SIGNED IT.

Well said Kirk! But more importantly who signed this pointless petition? Freedom of speech allows Donald to speak his mind. He spoke it. You can agree or disagree with what he said by all means but he is still by USA law entitled to say what he thinks regardless of what anyone else thinks. I do wonder what nationality are those people who signed this petition? Does it reflect the majority of UK residents? I doubt it. Not that it makes any difference to Donald's campaign at all as nothing in the UK has any impact on American soil.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

So let's put this in perspective:

Donald Trump, the 'Front Runner' in the USA's Republican Candidate race, and therefore a legitimate politician, makes suggestions about banning all Muslims from the USA as a temporary precautionary measure until the current Islamic terrorist war on America is over - remarks which are undeniably, ludicrous, offensive and xenophobic but yet still legitimate under the US Laws on Free Speech - and over 300,000 UK 'citizens' sign a petition to ban him from the UK?

Trump has not tried to radicalise young Americans to go out and kill Muslims. Nor has he issued any threats to the UK or its people.

Can ANYONE on here recall ANY type of PUBLIC petition to expel evil Finsbury Islamic Hate Preacher and young Muslim radicaliser Abu Hamza who DID issue threats against the UK and its people?

Or how about evil Muslim solicitor, young Muslim radicaliser, and hate preacher Anjem Choudary who hailed as 'heroes' the terrorists responsible for the '911' atrocity in 2001, and the 7th of July 2005 attacks,and who DID pose a threat and issue threats against the UK and its people?

Or even evil Hate Preacher Mizanur Rahman who praised the Charlie Hebdo terrorist killers, and who hates Britain and calls us "The enemy of Islam"

I don't care what anyone else thinks, I would bet my last pound coin that the architects of this ridiculous pathetic 'Petition' do not have British interests at heart, and the sensationalising of it is rib-ticklingly hilarious because even if 500,000 sign it, that still leaves 54 or so million WHO HAVE NOT SIGNED IT.

100% correct. The far left have got us into this mess, they don't care about border control or security of the masses, they just want to do political points scoring, they also want to ban free speech on the right yet they said nothing about the Islamic hate preachers wanting to bomb the uk? theyre very dangerous anti patriotic anti Christian hypocrites

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by the truth

100% correct. The far left have got us into this mess, they don't care about border control or security of the masses, they just want to do political points scoring, they also want to ban free speech on the right yet they said nothing about the Islamic hate preachers wanting to bomb the uk? theyre very dangerous anti patriotic anti Christian hypocrites

Well said Truth.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

So let's put this in perspective:

Donald Trump, the 'Front Runner' in the USA's Republican Candidate race, and therefore a legitimate politician, makes suggestions about banning all Muslims from the USA as a temporary precautionary measure until the current Islamic terrorist war on America is over - remarks which are undeniably, ludicrous, offensive and xenophobic but yet still legitimate under the US Laws on Free Speech - and over 300,000 UK 'citizens' sign a petition to ban him from the UK?

Trump has not tried to radicalise young Americans to go out and kill Muslims. Nor has he issued any threats to the UK or its people.

Can ANYONE on here recall ANY type of PUBLIC petition to expel evil Finsbury Islamic Hate Preacher and young Muslim radicaliser Abu Hamza who DID issue threats against the UK and its people?

Or how about evil Muslim solicitor, young Muslim radicaliser, and hate preacher Anjem Choudary who hailed as 'heroes' the terrorists responsible for the '911' atrocity in 2001, and the 7th of July 2005 attacks,and who DID pose a threat and issue threats against the UK and its people?

Or even evil Hate Preacher Mizanur Rahman who praised the Charlie Hebdo terrorist killers, and who hates Britain and calls us "The enemy of Islam"

I don't care what anyone else thinks, I would bet my last pound coin that the architects of this ridiculous pathetic 'Petition' do not have British interests at heart, and the sensationalising of it is rib-ticklingly hilarious because even if 500,000 sign it, that still leaves 54 or so million WHO HAVE NOT SIGNED IT.

No but it's alright for them.They can say whatever they like because they're not white.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

No but it's alright for them.They can say whatever they like because they're not white.

Too true Paul.

[Crimson Dynamo]

now 300,000

so 700,000 to go to beat the clarkson one



these petitions are sad, they really are

[bots]

I think the comparison is being painted the wrong way round. ISIS are going round persecuting and ethnic/religious cleansing. They have ambitions to conquer the world. That to me is the true comparison.

[Johnnyuk123]

Anyone know what percentage of ISIS members are still claiming UK benefits?

[AnnieK]

I'm confused....aren't ISIS being likened to Nazi Germany?? That comparison I can get...the ISIS ideology is pretty similar to the Nazis. Muslims, and in fact the rest of the world should be likened to the Jewish populace of WW2.... Anyone who doesn't the fit the ISIS ideology is dispensable and a target. Sounds very much like Nazi Germany to me....correct me if I'm wrong but when citizens are being murdered for being the wrong religion, colour, creed etc....it's scarily reminiscent

[Kizzy]

They are extremists..... Trump is a politician.
Perspective.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Merry Kizzmas

They are extremists..... Trump is a politician.
Perspective.

That's a bit of a stretch, he is a rich man with a big mouth. He can however say what he likes, if he is popular and gets voted in, then that reflects the thinking in America. I would be personally surprised if he gets voted in, but the choices aren't great this time, he could do it.

[Johnnyuk123]

Isn't the whole point of this bollox petition that Trump is supposed to be an extremist and a Hate Preacher?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Isn't the whole point of this bollox petition that Trump is supposed to be an extremist and a Hate Preacher?

Exactly Johnny, well said. Surely one would think extremist, murder-inciting Hate Preachers are the ones MORE likely to elicit some kind of petition to ban them from the UK when it's us Brits who the evil bastards are inciting their Muslim brethren to slaughter and our country these vermin detest so much.

[Johnnyuk123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Exactly Johnny, well said. Surely one would think extremist, murder-inciting Hate Preachers are the ones MORE likely to elicit some kind of petition to ban them from the UK when it's us Brits who the evil bastards are inciting their Muslim brethren to slaughter and our country these vermin detest so much.

The UK and the rest of the world can only appease this kill now do NOT ask questions later ideology for a limited period of time before they turn around and say no no NO, NOT IN MY NAME!

[Kizzy]

He is inciting racial hatred, that's a given.

[Kizzy]

What a guy...

'A British soldier who lost his leg in Iraq has posted a powerful message to people "expecting racism" from him just because he "got blown up".

Chris Herbert was just 19 when his vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb in Basra, Iraq which killed his friend, injured another and left him facing the prospect of living the rest of his life without his right leg.

In the weeks after the Paris atrocities, the former serviceman said he has been troubled by the number of people who have expected him to be Islamophobic just because a "Muslim man blew me up".

In a powerful Facebook message, which has been shared tens of thousands of times, Herbert goes on to list the Muslims who have helped him - including the Muslim surgeon who performed the surgery that saved his life.'

http://www.itv.com/news/2015-12-09/b...-hate-muslims/

[MTVN]

Oh dear at the petition to ban him. Sums up social media activism where people spend a couple of seconds clicking their mouse and then congratulate themselves on having changed the world

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh dear at the petition to ban him. Sums up social media activism where people spend a couple of seconds clicking their mouse and then congratulate themselves on having changed the world

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Oh dear at the petition to ban him. Sums up social media activism where people spend a couple of seconds clicking their mouse and then congratulate themselves on having changed the world

There is more to activism than this isn't there, haven't thousands upon thousands of people taken to the streets over the years over differing issues?
People had to pay £3 to elect a leader for a political party, and they did, this is just one way to gauge public opinion, like polls and being involved in surveys.
A petition can't give an exact indication of the strength of feeling in the UK but then again putting a against a comment on a forum can't either, and yet here we are.
What is the solution, if you sign a petition it's not enough protest and it's too much, where's the happy medium...Put up and shut up?