[montblanc]

i'm so disappointed in him

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Mess if he goes back to being innocent again

oop or maybe not

[montblanc]

this whole situation makes my head hurt

[Liam-]

I’d scream if he was actually innocent after the all of the public dragging a he’s received

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I’d scream if he was actually innocent after the all of the public dragging a he’s received

I mean it seems unlikely, its just that the FBI are pointing out that some of the information released by police isn't quite accurate when it comes to the specifics.

However, in a case that's been so high profile in the media, I wonder if that alone could end up resulting in a mistrial...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Well he's not exactly gonna write "to fake my hatecrime" on his cheque is he.

Indeed.

This story is ****ing bizarre. I didn't comment on the original because it seemed a bit weird and random then, I did believe it I think though as my immediate reaction is to support 'victims'. But..how its turned out so far, well. Its just really strange as there is no reason to do it? I mean hes not exactly struggling for work, I could understand it a bit more if he was a washed up ex celeb but hes not..so he didn't need the publicity.

[reece(:]

New developments

Jussie Smollett has hard evidence to support his claim the Chicago Police Superintendent got it wrong when he told the media the actor paid $3,500 to Abel and Ola Osundairo to stage an attack.

TMZ has obtained documents that on the surface back his claim the $3,500 check he wrote to Abel was for training. The check was written to Abel on January 23, 2019, six days before the "attack." The memo line reads, "5 week Nutrition/Workout program Don't Go."

Sources connected to Jussie tell us, the reference to "Don't Go" is a song for which Jussie was going to shoot a music video ... featuring himself shirtless. The sources say Jussie had gained weight -- he was 192 lbs and needed to lose 20 pounds for the shoot, and that's why he hired Abel ... whom he says he calls "Bon."

There are various texts starting from January 20 between Jussie and Bon. On January 28 -- the day before the "attack" -- Bon wrote, "I know you're traveling today, make sure you get at least 45 mins of cardio."

Another text on January 20 outlines a menu for the day, including chicken thigh, StarKist Tuna, Eggs and Smucker's peanut butter. And, a text on January 25 reads, "This is the meal plan and the breakdown of macronutrients. Also includes projected fat loss."

You also see a text showing a calendar where February 23 is marked "Don't Go." The sources say that's the date of the music video shoot.

There's another screenshot from Sept. 27, 2018, presumably showing Jussie has paid Ola in the past. It's a Venmo payment of $100 to Bola (Abimbola aka Abel) for "Training."

Sources connected to Jussie say the $3,500 breakdown is as follows -- $600 a week for the workout plan for 5 weeks, and $100 a week for the nutrition plan for 5 weeks.

As we reported, Ola and Abel also told the grand jury the payment was for training.

http://m.tmz.com/#!article/2019/02/2...k-abel-attack/

[Liam-]

Mess

[Marsh.]

Not cheques in 2019.

[Oliver_W]

It doesn't prove the attack wasn't staged, as the purchase of the items used in the occurrence are still traceable to the brothers, who are still confirmed to be the "persons of interest"

[arista]

Sure Reece
take the Cash Error out of it,
Still has the Attack as staged

If you are Black and a Trump Supporter
attacks you
its a Big Story in USA.

But those brothers are not Pro Trump
they are punks living the High Life
in Africa and USA.

[bots]

it will all come out in court one way or another .... lets wait and see

[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

they are punks living the High Life -
in Africa and USA.

Did they attack Mr Smollett
Because he's black or cos he's gay?
It'll be in the courts sure soon enough;
We'll find out either way...
But if we've learned ONE thing from this thread,
Its that we shouldn't assume, today.

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Good afternoon good evening and goodnight.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Did they attack Mr Smollett
Because he's black or cos he's gay?
It'll be in the courts sure soon enough;
We'll find out either way...
But if we've learned ONE thing from this thread,
Its that we shouldn't assume, today.

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Good afternoon good evening and goodnight.

There his mates
so they did what he asked them to do
One works as a extra on the Show
he was on.
The Other Punk Brother supply's drugs (legal and illegal)
to him

[Oliver_W]

I'd not heard anything in a while about this case, so I turned to google.

The brothers regret their involvement in the hoax, as it could lead to people doubting real cases.

The brothers involved in Jussie Smollett case express 'tremendous regret,' lawyer says

(CNN)The brothers who allegedly took part in what police say was a staged attack on actor Jussie Smollett are expressing "tremendous regret" for their involvement.

"They understand how it has impacted people across the nation, particularly minority communities and especially those who have been victims of hate crimes themselves," said Gloria Schmidt, an attorney for the brothers Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo.

[Northern Monkey]

So what have learned from this?





Don’t trust TMZ

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

So what have learned from this?

Next time drop the sandwich?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

What real cases?



The fact that people have to make up stories tells you that these cases are practically none existant.



Don't believe the hype.

Hate crimes are "practically non-existent"?

FFS Alf take your win as it is on this one, don't push it

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

What real cases?

The fact that people have to make up stories tells you that these cases are practically none existant.

Don't believe the hype.

Don't be daft, hate crimes obviously do happen. Smollett wasn't trying to raise awareness of hate crimes, he was trying to shine a spotlight on himself, it was all about him.
The existence or otherwise of hate crimes in general has nothing to do with this.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

I heard that he's friends with some senator, who at the time was trying to pass some lynching law. What a coincidence.

Why you'd need some special law on lynching is bizarre, it's already against the law and the last report on any lynching in USA was about 40 years ago.

You have to wonder how many stories are made up to pass laws that give people in power, more power over citizens.

Beating someone up is a crime, but if it's because they're black and/or gay it becomes a hate crime. I guess the lynching law would be similar to that

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Alf

What if they're straight and White? can't that go in a hate crime category?

Sure, if that was the reason they were attacked.

I know some cute Tumblr memes say that racism comes from a place of "power+privilege" so white people can't be victims of racism, but that's BS

[bots]

US actor Jussie Smollett has been charged by a grand jury in Chicago on 16 counts, accused of falsely claiming to police that he had been the victim of a hate crime.

Prosecutors had previously charged him with one count of filing a false report.

The 36-year-old African-American actor told police he had been the victim of a homophobic and racist assault.

Police say he staged the attack in an attempt to further his acting career.

Last month he was suspended from the Empire TV show he starred in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47504720

[Glenn.]

Innocent until proven guilty

[bots]

The charges against him have now been dropped

[arista]

Guilty
but he got off