[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

If I approached reading a biography in that way I would never have bothered reading any at all

If you read any biographies written by people who write them based on fourth-hand gossip and take it very seriously then that's a naive mistake.

[Ammi]

.....I have to say, Jet...I’m not much of a biography reader...but I guess that if I was to read one, it would be one that I felt had some substance...where the author knew or had known in some depth, those whose lives they were giving pages of ‘insight’ on in apparently giving us their ‘real story’...even then, all a biography would be is personal perspective../...little more than an extended opinion piece...with the author of the book referred to and was apparently reviewed widely as ‘fair and balanced’....by her own admission, she prefers to not know or have any knowledge of the people she’s writing about...And yet it’s quite obvious from her interviews and from her articles that she has very formed and fixed opinions about the people she writes about and has no knowledge of, so it could never be fair or balanced...I guess for me a biography by definition would be ...’a detailed account of...etc...’...and again, by her own words, she has no detailed accounts of...very few of us do when it comes to marriages, even of very public people...’integrity’ seems to be a huge thing with Lady Colin...she doesn’t feel that Harry and Meghan are showing integrity by looking to earn their living in the USA...why can’t they just suck it up and have integrity by living off Royal money and being Royal and doing what Royal people do...she doesn’t see the irony of her words and how she earns a living and how that marries up to ‘integrity’ that she seems to hold so highly...

...but yeah, I’m a reader too and I like to form opinions ...but the foundation of opinion is substance and books such as this have none at all, so for me...(...as much as I can be amused by Lady Colin...)...this book would define torture..in my opinion of course...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the thing is, we don’t know what fair and balanced would be because we don’t know what the ‘real story’ would be...and I don’t think that any of us would like to be judged by a ‘source’ who knew nothing in depth about our lives because the ‘sources’ in books like this are often very obscure...I mean if Meghan was a manipulative person for instance...then a ‘fair and balanced’ judgement of her as such, wouldn’t actually be accurate..and as the readers/reviewers don’t know Meghan or Harry, then they have no measure of fair or balanced....and everything can’t be ‘the real story’... there are so many real stories and all too conflicting or differing...what I don’t personally trust are stories which are commercially driven in their ‘truths’....

This for me.

I can't really get worked up about the Royals really.
They don't really affect me and I'll never know any of them, so will never really know what they think, feel or even are.

They are still however people.
I'd hate to be a Royal.
I think the life must be, while privileged, also unbearable too.

These 2 chose to slip off from the really active side of the Royal life.
So their privacy needs to be respected.

It was said earlier here that no way would it be, they went off and wouldn't be reported on again.
There's media who will always still want to know all about them.
Report on what they're doing
Then others wanting to maybe cash in on anything related to them.

As for the press.
Just gutter trash which I'd never hold as gospel, they'll twist anything to put sensation into the story even where there's possibly nothing.

I just wish these 2 well.
I think their privacy ought to be respected.
Whether I hear from them or about them is irrelevant to me, as they are irrelevant to myself anyway..

They've done nothing wrong and Meghan has done nothing substantiated that I can see, that warrants all the more acidic negativity towards her, from people and the media too.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Youtube video

This sums up the chip paper that will be Lady C's "book".

....ooops..’...I don’t deal with servants...’...

[thesheriff443]

From the start they should of got married in a registry office instead making the tax payers pay for their lavish wedding so Meghan could invite a list celebrity’s to it that she hadn’t even met.

And in preparation for it the homeless where moved off the streets of Windsor so they would not be seen on tv.

[AnnieK]

Mental health struggles affect everyone.....just because a person has money doesn't mean they are not plagued by depression, anxiety etc. Look how many rich and famous take their own lives....money does not equal happiness and so yes, they live a very comfortable life in terms of material things but the richest person in the world can also be the saddest. Some people with nothing are happy with their lot too and wouldn't want the trapping of fame and fortune.

[The Slim Reaper]

The duchess has spoken.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Mental health struggles affect everyone.....just because a person has money doesn't mean they are not plagued by depression, anxiety etc. Look how many rich and famous take their own lives....money does not equal happiness and so yes, they live a very comfortable life in terms of material things but the richest person in the world can also be the saddest. Some people with nothing are happy with their lot too and wouldn't want the trapping of fame and fortune.

If you have money you can get access to the best mental health care in the world but a person who has no money kills them selves while waiting for an appointment.

My daugher has mental health problems and is on anti phycotic medication her mum died April when her heart stopped in her sleep my dad has liver cancer so yea we’ve all got real problems I don’t see that pair of over privileged twats giving the large on the back a poor black mans death as nothing more than attention seeking arse wipes.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you have money you can get access to the best mental health care in the world but a person who has no money kills them selves while waiting for an appointment.

My daugher has mental health problems and is on anti phycotic medication her mum died April when her heart stopped in her sleep my dad has liver cancer so yea we’ve all got real problems I don’t see that pair of over privileged twats giving the large on the back a poor black mans death as nothing more than attention seeking arse wipes.

Tough time for you Sherriff,

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you have money you can get access to the best mental health care in the world but a person who has no money kills them selves while waiting for an appointment.

My daugher has mental health problems and is on anti phycotic medication her mum died April when her heart stopped in her sleep my dad has liver cancer so yea we’ve all got real problems I don’t see that pair of over privileged twats giving the large on the back a poor black mans death as nothing more than attention seeking arse wipes.

Your problems are awful Sheriff, I sympathise truly I do....but they don't impact on my life. I have had my fair share of loss recently and troubles and they do not impact on your life.

What I'm trying to say is, when you have mental health issues, whether you have access to professionals or not, your problems are huge. Robin Williams had multiple millions, he still took his own life and there are many many more examples of this.

When you have issues in your life, they are huge to YOU. To others you may seem self absorbed and up your own arse but to you its all consuming.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Your problems are awful Sheriff, I sympathise truly I do....but they don't impact on my life. I have had my fair share of loss recently and troubles and they do not impact on your life.

What I'm trying to say is, when you have mental health issues, whether you have access to professionals or not, your problems are huge. Robin Williams had multiple millions, he still took his own life and there are many many more examples of this.

When you have issues in your life, they are huge to YOU. To others you may seem self absorbed and up your own arse but to you its all consuming.

yes robin wi8liams had dependency issues and mental health issues well documented, severe case. Prince Harry hasnt. and there the comparison ends

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes robin wi8liams had dependency issues and mental health issues well documented, severe case. Prince Harry hasnt. and there the comparison ends

What would you know about Prince Harry's mental health?

[Aaliyah]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Robin Williams had multiple millions, he still took his own life and there are many many more examples of this.

He had early on set dementia and numerous other problems, hardly comparable!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If you have money you can get access to the best mental health care in the world but a person who has no money kills them selves while waiting for an appointment.

My daugher has mental health problems and is on anti phycotic medication her mum died April when her heart stopped in her sleep my dad has liver cancer so yea we’ve all got real problems I don’t see that pair of over privileged twats giving the large on the back a poor black mans death as nothing more than attention seeking arse wipes.

Everyone struggles and you have no right to gatekeep struggling. There is always someone who has it worse but that doesn't invalidate the struggles that everyone has.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Everyone struggles and you have no right to gatekeep struggling. There is always someone who has it worse but that doesn't invalidate the struggles that everyone has.

Yes they are really struggling with the 11 million mansion they have just bought.

Five acres spa pool tennis court, your embarrassing yourself like other are defending them.

Every person on the planet is neededto defeat racism!

There I’ve said it, now you can all hold me in same high regards as Harry.

Empty words that’s all he is giving.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Yes they are really struggling with the 11 million mansion they have just bought.

Five acres spa pool tennis court, your embarrassing yourself like other are defending them.

Every person on the planet is neededto defeat racism!

There I’ve said it, now you can all hold me in same high regards as Harry.

Empty words that’s all he is giving.

I have no care for them but I do have a hatred for ignorant people that believe that can say whether someone else's troubles are legitimate or not when they have no ****ing clue what they are talking about. You are completely ignorant of other people's struggles so you don't get to say whether they are struggling or not without being called out because you are talking out of your arse. You are not wise to other people's lives, you have a bias against someone and you think that gives you knowledge about them that you do not possess.

There's always someone suffering worse but that doesn't invalidate your own suffering. How would you feel if I heard everything you said and said 'well, you still have a roof over your head so you aren't suffering. Get over it.' It would be horrifically dismissive of your own struggles.

You have no clue about other people's struggles so stop acting like you're an authority when you clearly aren't.

[Aaliyah]

I'll never forgive this insufferable pair for what they've put the Queen through, she's nearly 100 years old and they (particularly the evil Megan) have put her through so much stress I'm surprised she's still here.

[bots]

once you get to a certain age, you couldn't care less about petty dramas which in the scope of things, this is, so the queen won't have been affected by these events at all

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Aaliyah

I'll never forgive this insufferable pair for what they've put the Queen through, she's nearly 100 years old and they (particularly the evil Megan) have put her through so much stress I'm surprised she's still here.

I mean her own son is implicated in a massive global paedophile conspiracy but yeah I bet Megan has her proppa stressed.

[Ammi]

...I really am genuinely sorry about your daughter’s mother, Sheriff...and I know how difficult it must be with your daughter and her ongoing mental health issues...collectively for all of us, 2020 has been a rubbish year ..but then more so with individual sorrows for some as well...and I can completely understand why you have a low tolerance for Harry and Meghan and ‘their problems’...I know when I was ill, so many things just felt so small and insignificant in the ‘grand scheme’ ....but just following from Annie’s words, it’s us ...each and every one of us who are small/tiny in the grand scheme...and yet for us, our sorrows and worries are huge, they can become everything, our whole worlds at times...to others though, they are nothing...except for those, obviously, close to us whose lives are also impacted...and who will each day to be better for us...I think the thing with being ‘rich and famous’..?...is that it must be a mixed blessing or a blessing and a curse...yes, so much can have the very best of care through affordability...but so much as well, must be enhanced and intensified through a public and media glare and spotlight....’self healing’ in private is something they can do much less than us so we have ‘privilege’ they don’t also ..their ‘having it all’ can work against them in the very same way that having nothing can for many people...they’ve obviously both been very unhappy in their roles and how things were, so it’s impossible to not wish them better days if they can find them in the life they’ve now chosen...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I really am genuinely sorry about your daughter’s mother, Sheriff...and I know how difficult it must be with your daughter and her ongoing mental health issues...collectively for all of us, 2020 has been a rubbish year ..but then more so with individual sorrows for some as well...and I can completely understand why you have a low tolerance for Harry and Meghan and ‘their problems’...I know when I was ill, so many things just felt so small and insignificant in the ‘grand scheme’ ....but just following from Annie’s words, it’s us ...each and every one of us who are small/tiny in the grand scheme...and yet for us, our sorrows and worries are huge, they can become everything, our whole worlds at times...to others though, they are nothing...except for those, obviously, close to us whose lives are also impacted...and who will each day to be better for us...I think the thing with being ‘rich and famous’..?...is that it must be a mixed blessing or a blessing and a curse...yes, so much can have the very best of care through affordability...but so much as well, must be enhanced and intensified through a public and media glare and spotlight....’self healing’ in private is something they can do much less than us so we have ‘privilege’ they don’t also ..their ‘having it all’ can work against them in the very same way that having nothing can for many people...they’ve obviously both been very unhappy in their roles and how things were, so it’s impossible to not wish them better days if they can find them in the life they’ve now chosen...

Inspirational, purely and simply.
A beautiful use of words.

I agree with all you've said.

Sadly too, I think the strains and pain of 2020 so far are going to continue for a long time yet too.

I too have said on here, all I wish for this couple is the best they can find for them.
Even stepping back as they chose to.

They'll still be sought after for views on this or that.
They'll have their views.
They didn't want to or set out to change those.

There are those who'll want to hear them and others who'll think they should just shut up.
To cast negativity to their marriage and relationship is deeply personalising the criticism.

They chose each other, to blame one for the other looking or being miserable, in any photo is in my view unnecessary.
We don't know either personally.

We don't see how happy or otherwise they are in their private life setting.
That's part of what they wanted to achieve in the main.

Not, for them now to be expected to seem to NOT now exist at all in the World.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes robin wi8liams had dependency issues and mental health issues well documented, severe case. Prince Harry hasnt. and there the comparison ends

I read just recently that he was suffering from a form of dementia too, poor guy

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean her own son is implicated in a massive global paedophile conspiracy but yeah I bet Megan has her proppa stressed.

I know right, it's so weird how unfocused people are on that compared to the Meghan and Harry stuff, how is Prince Andrew being a potential sex offender/paedophile less controversial than Harry moving to America? The mind boggles

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I read just recently that he was suffering from a form of dementia too, poor guy



I know right, it's so weird how unfocused people are on that compared to the Meghan and Harry stuff, how is Prince Andrew being a potential sex offender/paedophile less controversial than Harry moving to America? The mind boggles

tff Andrew is keeping a low profile so there is nothing new to discuss

if he was popping up telling the plebs not to fly to save the planet he would be getting grief too

[bots]

the queen hasn't forgiven Andrew for highlighting the fact that they are all really lizards

[arista]