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Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast

There will NEVER be a crime free zone but it will reduce the crime if there is harsher punishments. Too much pussy footing in the UK.

My statement is just a generalisation. There are people still out there who have done far worse than this thread story.

Too much pussy footing as in.. "oh everyone is mentally ill nowadays" wah wah. People can't take responsibilty for their actions.. cowards!!

i totally agree,but sadly to many lefties now.

Angus · 07-10-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm glad that a lot of people in this topic will never have power or control of anything regarding how this country is run.

You're wrong there - a lot of us voted to kick out the useless Labour party in favour of a government that will hopefully start redressing the unfair balance between the rights of the victim and the rights of the criminal. So you could say that we're already in control by having the government of OUR choice calling the shots now.

Lee. · 07-10-2010, 12:57 AM

The whole country has become namby pamby!! Human right and political correctness have buggered everything up!! From schoolkids to criminals, there are no fearful punishments to deter! When I was young, I had respect (maybe almost fear) for teachers/my parents/the police etc. Not nowadays!
Same goes for criminals.. there just isn't a big enough deterrent!

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by happyland

The whole country has become namby pamby!! Human right and political correctness have buggered everything up!! From schoolkids to criminals, there are no fearful punishments to deter! When I was young, I had respect (maybe almost fear) for teachers/my parents/the police etc. Not nowadays!
Same goes for criminals.. there just isn't a big enough deterrent!

i never feared my teachers but i still had respect for most of them and i would like to think that i will never commit a crime.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:00 AM

Read a couple of lines and had read enough to want to vomit.

Just get rid of the dirty bastards

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:01 AM

Capital punishment isn't a deterrent, America has horrific crime rates regardless. It does nothing to improve the rates.

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

i never feared my teachers but i still had respect for most of them and i would like to think that i will never commit a crime.

Didn't you say a page a few back that you'd kill Ian Huntley if you had the chance? That'd be murder....

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Capital punishment isn't a deterrent, America has horrific crime rates regardless. It does nothing to improve the rates.

Look at the size of America though. Not sure I'd fancy being shot/killed if I did wrong

That said America has effed up badly somewhere along the line. Just not sure where exactly

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Capital punishment isn't a deterrent, America has horrific crime rates regardless. It does nothing to improve the rates.

because there a much bigger country than the uk,if america was the same size as the uk america would have the smaller crime rate as the uk for such a small island has a very big crime rate.

InOne · 07-10-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Capital punishment isn't a deterrent, America has horrific crime rates regardless. It does nothing to improve the rates.

Good job these whip em and hang em types are a minority in this country. It would be more of a mess. Their arguments and statements get more ridiculous and less rational with every post.

Beastie · 07-10-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Capital punishment isn't a deterrent, America has horrific crime rates regardless. It does nothing to improve the rates.

That's in America though. I am on about the UK. Be good to kill off some people who deserve it. The UK is CLOGGED up enough! While America is massive but has less people living there per square mile.

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:05 AM

The size is irrelevent, it's not anarchy out there, there's order but the death penalty just doesn't have any positive effects. You can't justify it and call it justice since it's murder itself.

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Didn't you say a page a few back that you'd kill Ian Huntley if you had the chance? That'd be murder....

i dont class killing criminals as proper murder.

im on about killing innocent people.

Lucy. · 07-10-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

. You can't justify it and call it justice since it's murder itself.

Thank **** someone else feels the same, was starting to think I was the only person who thought this!

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

The size is irrelevent, it's not anarchy out there, there's order but the death penalty just doesn't have any positive effects. You can't justify it and call it justice since it's murder itself.

OK so what about less 'tolerent' countries where they just chop your hands off for theft instead? Yes - it happens

Beastie · 07-10-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

The size is irrelevent, it's not anarchy out there, there's order but the death penalty just doesn't have any positive effects. You can't justify it and call it justice since it's murder itself.

It doesn't have to be called justice then. I believe in an eye for an eye and people having a taste of their own medicine.

InOne · 07-10-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

i dont class killing criminals as proper murder.

im on about killing innocent people.

Stop being so ridiculous. You couldn't kill anyone.

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

i dont class killing criminals as proper murder.

im on about killing innocent people.

Oh so the law's only okay when you say it is? You'd be a murderer whether you'd see yourself as one or not.

Mystic Mock · 07-10-2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast

It doesn't have to be called justice then. I believe in an eye for an eye and people having a taste of their own medicine.

yes but it seems like most people nowdays havent been brought up on an eye for an eye.

Lucy. · 07-10-2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jedward fever

yes but it seems like most people nowdays havent been brought up on an eye for an eye.

Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thebeast

It doesn't have to be called justice then. I believe in an eye for an eye and people having a taste of their own medicine.

I said this in one of my first posts but

'An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind in the end'

You're not interested in justice or the law, you just want mob violence.

Kerry · 07-10-2010, 01:09 AM

Until anyone in here says they have kids and wouldn't kill for their kids I'm not going to bother posting

Tom4784 · 07-10-2010, 01:10 AM

Having kids or not doesn't make anyone's opinion more or less valid.

Why is nobody getting that?

Lucy. · 07-10-2010, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Having kids or not doesn't make anyone's opinion more or less valid.

Why is nobody getting that?

I do.

Beastie · 07-10-2010, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy

I said this in one of my first posts but

'An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind in the end'

You're not interested in justice or the law, you just want mob violence.

I don't want mob violence at all! I just think it is disgutsting people who have commited severe crimes get away with it or have "lenient" punishments.

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