[Ammi]

.....lots and lots and lots of sporting personalities have ‘erred in the past’...I still don’t see how whether Tyson Fury should be given this award has any bearing on something that Kobe Bryant did in his past...

[parmnion]

He hasn't even said anything that grim considering it's only one man's opinion.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.....lots and lots and lots of sporting personalities have ‘erred in the past’...I still don’t see how whether Tyson Fury should be given this award has any bearing on something that Kobe Bryant did in his past...

I was drawing a comparison from a recent thread on here, given the comparisons made were Danny Baker and Alistair Stewart again recent threads...you don't seem to have any issue with those comparisons Ammi?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.....lots and lots and lots of sporting personalities have ‘erred in the past’...I still don’t see how whether Tyson Fury should be given this award has any bearing on something that Kobe Bryant did in his past...

the thread is about does what famous sports stars say or do in the past have bearing on how popular they are now - do we forgive male sports stars more

Tyson has said some hateful stuff and now he is lauded as a king. Bryant raped a girl but people ignored that and lauded him as a basketball god.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He hasn't even said anything that grim considering it's only one man's opinion.

I don't particularly care if he thinks women should be at the sink, I know I wont be so that's that

[LeatherTrumpet]

In 1992, Mike Tyson was convicted of rape and sentenced to six years in prison. People love him now and he starred in the hangover film

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Cherie

as a woman I don't particularly care if he thinks women should be at the sink, I know I wont be so that's that

He can think what the hell he wants, and air those thoughts as far as I'm concerned..lucky buggers 6ft 80 inches, his wife's frying pan will just about graze his belly button.

Me on the other hand just wouldn't air them...but I should still be allowed to think them..whatever they are.

That's where social media comes in..people are not themselves.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I was drawing a comparison from a recent thread on here, given the comparisons made were Danny Baker and Alistair Stewart again recent threads...you don't seem to have any issue with those comparisons Ammi?

.... but there was no comparison to be drawn with that thread and this, though...no one has said that what Kobe did was okay in any way...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

To be fair people did the same when paul walker died who was dating under age girls, he was a legend and all that.

Was he? Genuinely didn't know that about him

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Shaun

It's kinda sad that we can't have a discussion about someone's very recent bigotry without resorting to "well at least he isn't a rapist "

I'm not saying that, i dont like Fury either

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He hasn't even said anything that grim considering it's only one man's opinion.

It's all pretty grim

[Black Dagger]

He's a toxic bellend. A talented one but I don't support his work bc he's an awful person and that's that.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Was he? Genuinely didn't know that about him

Yes he was dating a 17 year old when he died.

[Marsh.]

Kobe Bryant was a rapist?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Kobe Bryant was a rapist?

In July 2003, Bryant was charged with sexually assaulting a 19-year-old employee of the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Colo. He admitted that he didn’t explicitly ask for consent and initially denied even having sex with the woman. He left a bruise on her neck and drew blood from her skin. After Bryant’s defense team badly intimidated the victim and smeared her reputation, she refused to testify. After the criminal case was dismissed, Bryant issued an apology that said, in part, “After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.” He later settled for an undisclosed sum in a civil suit.

https://time.com/5773151/kobe-bryant...icated-legacy/

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.... but there was no comparison to be drawn with that thread and this, though...no one has said that what Kobe did was okay in any way...

Yes you are right because it was never mentioned at all, all has been forgiven

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Ammi

.....lots and lots and lots of sporting personalities have ‘erred in the past’...I still don’t see how whether Tyson Fury should be given this award has any bearing on something that Kobe Bryant did in his past...

i didn't really have you down as a big basketball fan?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

[/B]

Yes you are right because it was never mentioned at all, all has been forgiven

...apparently it wasn’t ‘forgiven’ though...I’ve read that in 2018, he was dropped from a film festival jury directly because of it..

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...this is the real Tyson Fury as in who, Zizu..?..do you mean he’s someone who doesn’t have the beliefs that he said he did...?...

He has inspired so many groups of people since he got his life ‘back’ .. anyone fighting against depression, anxiety ,alcohol and drugs excesses and even those fighting obesity.

Everyone he meets falls in love with him.. so many stories from giving £7 million away to charity about 18 months ago to little things like buying the live lobsters and releasing them into the harbour ..




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[Denver]

But how much blood money did he donate from WWE?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Shaun

So he didn't say those things? Or does claiming mental health problems absolve him of everything?

It does go along way .. . how many people get acquitted when diminished responsibility is proven


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In 1992, Mike Tyson was convicted of rape and sentenced to six years in prison. People love him now and he starred in the hangover film

I’m still praying for Andy Gray’s return to tv sport .. he made a sexist comment as I recall .


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[Zizu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

In July 2003, Bryant was charged with sexually assaulting a 19-year-old employee of the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Colo. He admitted that he didn’t explicitly ask for consent and initially denied even having sex with the woman. He left a bruise on her neck and drew blood from her skin. After Bryant’s defense team badly intimidated the victim and smeared her reputation, she refused to testify. After the criminal case was dismissed, Bryant issued an apology that said, in part, “After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.” He later settled for an undisclosed sum in a civil suit.



https://time.com/5773151/kobe-bryant...icated-legacy/

‘blood from skin’ was apparently from the tradesmen’s entrance.... ‘back door’ badly damaged ..


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[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Zizu

‘blood from skin’ was apparently from the tradesmen’s entrance.... ‘back door’ badly damaged ..


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GRIM

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He has inspired so many groups of people since he got his life ‘back’ .. anyone fighting against depression, anxiety ,alcohol and drugs excesses and even those fighting obesity.

Everyone he meets falls in love with him.. so many stories from giving £7 million away to charity about 18 months ago to little things like buying the live lobsters and releasing them into the harbour ..




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**** all that..some gays,women and paedophiles have thier knickers in twist.