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On the psych side they can make you FEEL like they restrict your breathing because instinctually, if something is covering your nose and mouth, you want to remove it to be "on the safe side". It makes you anxious, you subconsciously start breathing heavily, and that's what makes it feel like it's hard to breathe. If you relax and breathe normally you're fine. It's a mind over matter thing.

Think of "Jimmy" in independence day (Will Smith's pilot friend). He's panicking and feels like he can't breathe, instinctively pulls off his mask (oxygen mask for pilots at altitude) and Will Smith is like "Put your mask back on! Jimmy! Jimmy nooooooOOoooOoOooo!!".... *ahem*... So yeah anyway it's the same principle. Jimmy could breathe with the mask on, Jimmy needed to keep his mask on, Jimmy panicked and felt restricted and pulled his mask off (not really realistic that a trained airforce pilot would to that, but creative license and all that) when actually he just needed to keep it on and breathe normally. Jimmy died

Its the same principle.

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Well I've had a mask on all day and when I breath in the mask goes in my mouth, when I breath out I get a blast of hot air across my lips and nose..

So somethings stopping it flowing normally.
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Well I've had a mask on all day and when I breath in the mask goes in my mouth, when I breath out I get a blast of hot air across my lips and nose..

So somethings stopping it flowing normally.
It's true though, the mask shouldn't go in your mouth when you breathe in because there's no reason you need to be breathing through your mouth when breathing normally . The hot air across your nose and lips when breathing out is uncomfortable, yes, but the amount that could be trapped in a small mask is miniscule - certainly not a lungful - when you next breathe in, the air you're getting is coming from outside the mask. Air being warm doesn't mean it has less oxygen in it. Again its a psychological thing - a nice crisp breath of fresh air "feels" like better quality air but it doesn't have any more oxygen in it.

Like hydration, I guess. A cold glass of water with ice feels AMAZING when you're thirsty, feels like it combats the thirst much better. It doesn't actually hydrate you any better than a glass of tepid water. Or even a glass of hot water.

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And it's done it again when I sighed just now..
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Ok, I will wear a bloody mask in the shop
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I too have caved and purchased a £3.99 reusable one today
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I too have caved and purchased a £3.99 reusable one today


They do get foostie if you dont wash them..

I think I might pop down poundland with my ys over my head tomorrow, just to test the waters.
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Let's all be honest , government was more worried about the economy than people's health and well-being.

They make wearing masks compulsory because they don't know how else to control this .
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Let's all be honest , government was more worried about the economy than people's health and well-being.



They make wearing masks compulsory because they don't know how else to control this .
It's the only preventative measure that has no direct impact economically so I think they understandably hope it's very effective (and we all should). My worry would be that if it proves to be not enough on its own, they're still going to be hesitant to go back into a major lockdown. But then I also think another major lockdown would be an economic catastrophe, so...

Again to bring back ye olde argument; it's not just about "choosing between the two", major impacts to the economy will affect people's health and wellbeing. At the very least, I seriously hope that any future lockdown doesn't include closing "non-essential" medical services... Because there's no such thing and the knock-on effects have been awful.

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Let's all be honest , government was more worried about the economy than people's health and well-being.

They make wearing masks compulsory because they don't know how else to control this .
SAGE recommended masks in April.
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SAGE recommended masks in April.
But it wasn't compulsory until now, wearing masks in shops should of been compulsory from the beginning.
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I’m quite surprised they took so long to make this compulsory in shops. I’ve just bought some new reusable masks instead of having to wear the other cheap ones they provided for us. At the store I work at, they’ve said that all colleagues must wear a mask when on the shop floor at all times. The only time you can remove them is if your out the back in the warehouse or manning the tills because we have the screens up.

They also said that we aren’t allowed to challenge people that are not wearing a mask so I’m guessing that if they are caught by police in the shop not wearing one, then it’s that persons own fault which I think is fair.
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I’m quite surprised they took so long to make this compulsory in shops. I’ve just bought some new reusable masks instead of having to wear the other cheap ones they provided for us. At the store I work at, they’ve said that all colleagues must wear a mask when on the shop floor at all times. The only time you can remove them is if your out the back in the warehouse or manning the tills because we have the screens up.

They also said that we aren’t allowed to challenge people that are not wearing a mask so I’m guessing that if they are caught by police in the shop not wearing one, then it’s that persons own fault which I think is fair.

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Someone needs to be checking about the worlds governments either making these masks themselves.....or



Or they have bought far too many panicking thier knickers into a twist that they have to make some cash back before I buy one out my own pocket.
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A little off topic.
Although related.

I was in a Store tonight for a few things.
A couple were in front of me at the checkout, the lady had a mask on, her husband none.

I heard her husband say, she'd be shopping on her own next week as masks had to be worn.
She replied, she bet if he could go and see his team playing a football match but had to wear a mask that he would.

He stated, he certainly would then.

Unbelievable.

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Sounds like you were encroaching thier personal space to me...
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Sounds like you were encroaching thier personal space to me...
You think you can't hear what people are saying from 2 metres away.
Really!!!
How utterly pathetic a point.

We've all been told even when having people in our gardens, to maintain the 2 metre distancing then.
Do you actually think no one could hear what others were saying then too, unless they were nearer.

Or is it that more, what I posted showed a ridiculously selective point as to some making noises against wearing masks, when they'd have no objection really, if it suited them for another scenario than shopping.

Really though.
You actually think people can't be heard talking when 2 metres apart.
It's only 6 and a half feet apart.
Window cleaners doing upstairs windows can hear what the other is saying holding onto the ladder at the bottom.

Good grief, I'd be worried about that if I was you.

At home I can be in the kitchen and hear my family talking in another room, far more than 2 metres apart as they can me.

Just saying that to highlight how daft your criticism and getting at someone really was.

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Top tip if you wear glasses like me. Put your glasses on after you put on your mask and they don't steam up
Three tips to stop glasses steaming up when wearing a mask.

Video - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/newsbe...with-a-mask-on or https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1129800070728286
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I wonder are there construction workers who think that mandatory hard hats are a global totalitarian conspiracy ? Or do they just realise that building sites are dangerous and hard hats keep themselves and others safe?
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I wonder are there construction workers who think that mandatory hard hats are a global totalitarian conspiracy ? Or do they just realise that building sites are dangerous and hard hats keep themselves and others safe?
It's not even a bad comparison because building sites and building work is hot & sweaty, and hard hats are somewhat uncomfortable and can result in an itchy + sweaty head.

That said, to be balanced, the risk of getting a head injury on a building site with no hardhat is probably significantly higher than the risk of getting Covid without a mask (in the UK, currently).

Part of the problem is simply that people are NOTORIOUSLY bad at accurately assessing risk... it's actually been studied. We're **** at it and should just listen to the stats and experts because our "gut feelings" are usually way off
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It's not even a bad comparison because building sites and building work is hot & sweaty, and hard hats are somewhat uncomfortable and can result in an itchy + sweaty head.

That said, to be balanced, the risk of getting a head injury on a building site with no hardhat is probably significantly higher than the risk of getting Covid without a mask (in the UK, currently).

Part of the problem is simply that people are NOTORIOUSLY bad at accurately assessing risk... it's actually been studied. We're **** at it and should just listen to the stats and experts because our "gut feelings" are usually way off
Is it though?, I wonder how many times people on building sites actually get hit on the head (or on their hard hat) (I have no idea by the way, I'm just curious)
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