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Old 21-06-2023, 10:02 AM #1
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GB news says the sounds heard are SOS morsecode.
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GB news says the sounds heard are SOS morsecode.
Grim. That means they're still alive but at that depth I think the chances of them being able to locate and reach them in time - or possibly ever - are very slim.

Would have been better off if it was a structural failure and they died instantly.
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Grim. That means they're still alive but at that depth I think the chances of them being able to locate and reach them in time - or possibly ever - are very slim.

Would have been better off if it was a structural failure and they died instantly.
yeah, slow suffocation, grim indeed
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They're too far down. They were never supposed to go that deep, it's just not safe.
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yeah, slow suffocation, grim indeed
presumably they have been in pitch black for the past 4 days
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presumably they have been in pitch black for the past 4 days
They don't necessarily have no power - the light might still work.
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presumably they have been in pitch black for the past 4 days
No they have a laptop Light
with back up power
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BBC have stated 10am tomorrow to be when air is expected to run out.
This is the timing I’ve always been working to. No idea why the thought it was 40 hour at 8pm yesterday.
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realistically, there will be much less than 96 hours air. They weren't a professional outfit, it's unlikely they would have filled the oxygen to the max

If they were going to have any hope of rescuing them, they would need to have found them already, and even that would be a tall order
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This appeared on the BBC live updates page earlier.

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Missing sub could be at the surface, says former submarine commander

Victoria Gill

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A submarine search and rescue expert in Australia, Frank Owen, tells the BBC his “confidence went up by an order of magnitude” when he heard reports of banging being detected by floating sound detectors.

“There's a couple of reasons for that,” he explains. “Firstly, on board this craft is a retired French navy diver. He would know the protocol for trying to alert searching forces… on the hour and the half hour you bang like hell for three minutes.”

He says the sound signal being picked by a buoy close to the surface also suggests that the sub itself could be near or at the surface.

“Below about 180 metres, the water temperature drops very rapidly,” he explained. “That creates a layer that the [sonar signal] bounces off. But if you’re in the same depth water it tends to go quite straight.”

Even if Titan is at the surface, it will be difficult to spot. Very little of the small, white vessel sits above the water.

But using an array of sound-detecting buoys to triangulate the signal could narrow down its position.
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It was said earlier that it's supposed to have safety measures that make it float to the surface if in trouble (assuming not trapped) but that raises a whole other question for me ... ... ...

If this is a possibility, why is there not;

1) The ability to open from the inside once at the surface
2) An inflatable life raft with GPS locator

The reason it wouldn't be feasible to use GPS if it's sunk is that GPS doesn't work through deep water. It would work fine at or near the surface. The suggestion seems to basically be that they could be at the surface but ... still trapped inside? Only openable from the outside? Or perhaps, simply nowhere to go if they exit?
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It was said earlier that it's supposed to have safety measures that make it float to the surface if in trouble (assuming not trapped) but that raises a whole other question for me ... ... ...

If this is a possibility, why is there not;

1) The ability to open from the inside once at the surface
2) An inflatable life raft with GPS locator

The reason it wouldn't be feasible to use GPS if it's sunk is that GPS doesn't work through deep water. It would work fine at or near the surface. The suggestion seems to basically be that they could be at the surface but ... still trapped inside? Only openable from the outside? Or perhaps, simply nowhere to go if they exit?
Maybe they're not still trapped inside, just lost?
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Maybe they're not still trapped inside, just lost?
But you can't open it from inside?
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But you can't open it from inside?
Oh No way to break it open?
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Oh No way to break it open?

No, it is sealed up.


Only the Master Ship can open it.
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If they are still alive, it doesn't bear thinking about what they must be going through; and their families. The panic, the fear. Just horrific.
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Another 6PM News Conference
from Boston.
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Yes if it is on the Water
it must be Hell.


As You can not open it from the inside
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Live 10mins Conference on now

Boston.


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All of the sounds are now on tape
Experts are going through them.

Yesterday and Today
with 30mins intervals

They are searching in the area of the Sounds of banging

He thanked the British Government
for their help.

Now ended.

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