[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

He's ****en bobbins mate.

One trophy in the cabinet already, with the CL to follow, and he's made a very promising start to his career at united.

[Ryan57]

He'll be here next season no doubt. Fergie is too stubborn. Letting him pick a manager, deary me... The Glazers have no bollocks. Fergie had no right in picking a manager.

[Ryan57]

Even bigger disgrace is the fact Fergie chose him because he was Scottish. Everyone, myself included, who said that was the reason were shouted down. Fergie then revealed that was the reason. And also because he had a 'good work ethic'...

This mess is all down to Fergie and Bobby Charlton. The Glazers should go above the pair of them and if Fergie and Bobby want to go due to it... Let them.

You really think that slur chose Moyes because of his nationality? Over and above the fact he's known and mentored him for years?

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

You really think that slur chose Moyes because of his nationality? Over and above the fact he's known and mentored him for years?

Fergie was asked at a Q&A in London regarding his book about why Moyes got the job. He also mentions why in his autobiography. He never mentioned a football reason.

[Ryan57]

From his book:

"...They wanted a new man in place within days.

A lot of Scots have a dourness about them: a strong will. When they leave Scotland it tends to be for one reason only. To be successful. Scots don’t leave to escape the past. They move away to better themselves. You see it all over the world, in America and Canada especially. Leaving the homeland creates a certain resolution. It’s not a mask; it’s a determination to get things done. The Scottish dourness others talk about sometimes applied to me as well.

The Scotsman abroad doesn’t lack humour. David Moyes is not short of wit. In their jobs, though, the Scots are serious about their labours, an invaluable quality. People often said to me, ‘I never see you smile during a game.’ I would reply, ‘I’m not there to smile, I’m there to win the match.’

David had some of these traits. I knew his family background. His father was a coach at Drumchapel, where I played as a lad. David Moyes senior. They have a good family feel about them. I’m not saying that’s a reason to hire someone but you like to see good foundations in someone appointed to such high office. I left Drumchapel in 1957 when David senior would have been a young boy, so there was no direct crossover, but I knew their story."

The fact he was Scottish and had a good work ethic played a part is disgraceful. About time Fergie admitted he made a mistake.

When they leave Scotland it tends to be for one reason only. To be successful.

I think that probably resonated more than the fact he's Scottish, but fair enough. I hadn't seen that before, and it is quite a strange thing that he highlighted his nationality. But that just makes it funnier

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I think that probably resonated more than the fact he's Scottish, but fair enough. I hadn't seen that before, and it is quite a strange thing that he highlighted his nationality. But that just makes it funnier

why is it strange?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

From his book:



The fact he was Scottish and had a good work ethic played a part is disgraceful. About time Fergie admitted he made a mistake.

how is that disgraceful?

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by the truth

how is that disgraceful?

I could find a charity shop cleaner, that's Scottish, and has a good work ethic, does that make him deserving of the Man Utd job?

Letting Fergie pick sums up what little bollocks the Glazers have got. And allowing Bobby Charlton to have a say, despite his ironic reasons for not wanting Jose here, just tops it off.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

I could find a charity shop cleaner, that's Scottish, and has a good work ethic, does that make him deserving of the Man Utd job?

Letting Fergie pick sums up what little bollocks the Glazers have got. And allowing Bobby Charlton to have a say, despite his ironic reasons for not wanting Jose here, just tops it off.

youre exaggerated examples is meaningless....moyes had a good record at a weaker club.....hes been a manager for donkeys years at the top level.....hes got the best out of a lot of players too....fergie and others knew him and respected him as a good football man, the fact hes from scotland and has a good strong family around him was an added bonus. hes not a charity shop cleaner, hes an experienced football manager. as for jose , hes awesome. but did he want it? his heart was at chelski and he tends to leave clubs after a few years which isnt the man utd way

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by the truth

youre exaggerated examples is meaningless....moyes had a good record at a weaker club.....hes been a manager for donkeys years at the top level.....hes got the best out of a lot of players too....fergie and others knew him and respected him as a good football man, the fact hes from scotland and has a good strong family around him was an added bonus. hes not a charity shop cleaner, hes an experienced football manager. as for jose , hes awesome. but did he want it? his heart was at chelski and he tends to leave clubs after a few years which isnt the man utd way

He's certainly got the best out of United's players hasn't he? So many people respected him that he was never offered a top job at a world class club before United.

I wonder why?

He does have a good, strong, family. His daughter provides great support. Especially in the groin area of his players.

[GiRTh]

but you like to see good foundations in someone appointed to such high office

High office? You'd think Moyes was elected President.

[Drew.]

[King Gizzard]

Fergie recommended our owner McLeish, so Man United should never have trusted Fergie's judgement on managers

Think the only former player of his that is actually a decent coach is Bruce

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Nathan

Fergie recommended our owner McLeish, so Man United should never have trusted Fergie's judgement on managers

Think the only former player of his that is actually a decent coach is Bruce

Laurent Blanc doing well for himself too. Ole will do ok, but he's just picked a terrible first English job.

[King Gizzard]

Forgot Blanc, but then again I didn't really think Fergie would have 'moulded' him as such or been on the end of the phone alot

Might have been though

[MTVN]

Ole will be back managing Sunday league standard teams in Norway by next season

[King Gizzard]

Sort of respected him as a manager when he turned us down, but then he went and signed for Cardiff who are much less stable than us, he'd have had a better set up here

[King Gizzard]

But he'd have signed all those Norwegian jobbers

[GiRTh]

Youtube video

Its like this guys lost a close relative.