[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by bobnot

And yet right wingers are desperate to try and tar the left with violently assaulting a statue when its obvious to any sane person that it was a single prick with a spray can.

From small pricks,large pricks grow

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

From small pricks,large pricks grow

What have you heard about my sex life and how did this information leak

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bobnot

And yet right wingers are desperate to try and tar the left with violently assaulting a statue when its obvious to any sane person that it was a single prick with a spray can.
It obviously eases the feeling of shame for some here to concentrate on the actions of one dickhead.

What shame is this, Nicola Sturgeon handed the Tories the win by her constant insinuation that Labour would not get a majority and would need SNP backing it turned Labour votes to UKIP and The Tories.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What shame is this, Nicola Sturgeon handed the Tories the win by her constant insinuation that Labour would not get a majority and would need SNP backing it turned Labour votes to UKIP and The Tories.

Yes ita all Nicolas fault for being the best leader, having the best policies and running a successful much loved government

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What shame is this, Nicola Sturgeon handed the Tories the win by her constant insinuation that Labour would not get a majority and would need SNP backing it turned Labour votes to UKIP and The Tories.

Wrong


In England alone the Conservatives Won
check the Sunday Times Blue England map
with some red dots on it.


So take Scotland out of this
The Conservatives Won in England
Why The Feck Do You Not Know that , by now

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What shame is this, Nicola Sturgeon handed the Tories the win by her constant insinuation that Labour would not get a majority and would need SNP backing it turned Labour votes to UKIP and The Tories.

I agree, to say she insisted she didn't want the tories back in she played a massive part in ensuring they did

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

at best there were 100 people

it was like a hipsters convention, drinking their Starbucks, texting on their Iphonee 5s and shouting about tory scum and anarchy

you could not make it up

They'll be texting their buds later to do it all over again as it was such a laugh

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

"Hard-left activists desecrated a war memorial " nah thugs
"Hate mob in No.10 rampage" nah thugs.
"Anarchists and hard-line socialists unwilling to accept Thursday's election result protested violently in Whitehall" nah violent thugs caused chaos don't care about the cause.
"Dozens of protesters, many of them wearing masks or balaclavas tried to push their way through police lines" less threatening that a lone black man shouting but where are the batons??
.................................................. .................

aside from that. sad state of affairs.

[Tom4784]

It's a shame that an extreme minority of the protestors are giving Camecunt and his cronies the excuse to condemn them all and focus on the vandals and not the protests itself.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a shame that an extreme minority of the protestors are giving Camecunt and his cronies the excuse to condemn them all and focus on the vandals and not the protests itself.

But Dezzy you know that even if the worst thing to happen that day was that a kit kat wrapper fell out of someones pocket then the headline would be "THUGS DESECRATE THE STREETS OF LONDON"

The only disappointing part for me is that so many people rely on murdochs media to form an opinion of what is real.
Credit to murdoch he did it again wow he tapped into the fears of people once again.

The double headline in the sun was a masterstroke telling the uk to vote tory while at the same time publishing a headline in scotland that the only way to keep the torys out was to vote snp was a lesson in manipulation.

Just goes to show where the real power stems from.

[MTVN]

Think Cherie's point was that the SNP's campaign in Scotland had an impact on Labour's performance in England as well

[billy123]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Think Cherie's point was that the SNP's campaign in Scotland had an impact on Labour's performance in England as well

Thank **** for that a common sense point of view.

[Ross.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Think Cherie's point was that the SNP's campaign in Scotland had an impact on Labour's performance in England as well

Pretty much what happened, the SNP essentially helped put the Tories back into power.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You cant blame SNP for winning seats. Labour's cosying with the Tories during the Ref had a huge impact up here

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You cant blame SNP for winning seats. Labour's cosying with the Tories during the Ref had a huge impact up here

And this... mind you had they not they would've been castigated as they eventually were anyway purely on the insinuation they were pro Scotland...
He was caught between a rock and a hard place there.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

And this... mind you had they not they would've been castigated as they eventually were anyway purely on the insinuation they were pro Scotland...
He was caught between a rock and a hard place there.

yes it was just that

[Jemal]

Typical that a few stupid idiots done spmething stupid but of course tory supporters and cameron of course will jump straight at the chance of using the defacing of the memorial to cover up the real issues here in this country.
You have other people who are actually protesting for a real cause and real problems in this country for people whos pockets aren't deep and of course the torys will blank that and address the defacing of a memorial.

Were in for a tough five years.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jemal

Typical that a few stupid idiots done spmething stupid but of course tory supporters and cameron of course will jump straight at the chance of using the defacing of the memorial to cover up the real issues here in this country.
You have other people who are actually protesting for a real cause and real problems in this country for people whos pockets aren't deep and of course the torys will blank that and address the defacing of a memorial.

Were in for a tough five years.

The rioters lost any point they may have had when they did this, don't dare try to play it down. It was disgusting on the anniversary of VE day. How dare they do that to a memorial to people worth twenty of them.

The Conservatives were voted in democratically whichever way you try to spin it. If you don't like it, riot. What a pathetic bunch of people the rioters are...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

The rioters lost any point they may have had when they did this, don't dare try to play it down. It was disgusting on the anniversary of VE day. How dare they do that to a memorial to people worth twenty of them.

The Conservatives were voted in democratically whichever way you try to spin it. If you don't like it, riot. What a pathetic bunch of people the rioters are...

But they didn't all deface it, did they Livia. One or maybe a small group did and yes, that is disgusting, but you can't possibly pin it on everyone there, and you know that perfectly well, but you're in full on spindoctoring mode at the moment so there's little point trying to ask for reason I suppose.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

But they didn't all deface it, did they Livia. One or maybe a small group did and yes, that is disgusting, but you can't possibly pin it on everyone there, and you know that perfectly well, but you're in full on spindoctoring mode at the moment so there's little point trying to ask for reason I suppose.

well she is not saying all 100 held the can but it was them

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well she is not saying all 100 held the can but it was them

She is, though.

"the rioters lost any point they may have had when they did this"

Only the ones who did it lost their point. Surely.

Come on LT, you're the one whose always insisting that we don't judge entire police forces for one scumbag cop getting trigger happy. That people are wrong to turn their gaze to the entire force and that the blame lies with the one corrupt individual. Or am I remembering that wrongly?

Or do the rules of culpability simply morph to fit your prejudice?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

The rioters lost any point they may have had when they did this, don't dare try to play it down. It was disgusting on the anniversary of VE day. How dare they do that to a memorial to people worth twenty of them.

The Conservatives were voted in democratically whichever way you try to spin it. If you don't like it, riot. What a pathetic bunch of people the rioters are...

It's a bit silly (and convenient) to throw away the validity of the protest because of the actions of a few *****.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a bit silly (and convenient) to throw away the validity of the protest because of the actions of a few *****.

I agree.
To even attempt to dismiss the validity of what was being protested about does a massive injustice to all those who genuinely feel what will be happening as to cuts being wrong and unjustified especially to the most vulnerable.

Some might like to make that rightful protest as to those such cuts go away by jumping straight onto highlighting a much smaller negative side of this march/protest.
There would be in fact no need for marches and protests by anyone if decency was in evidence, and such threats of cuts to the most vulnerable were non existent.

I condemn the defacing of the war memorial as much as anyone but in doing so I condemn only those who did the defacing.
Not the rest of most likely decent people who actually care and get off their backsides and try to do something about these savage cruel cuts.
Who then get wholly generalised as left wing militants.

Some might not want to care a jot at what's in store for the most vulnerable, sick and disabled in the UK but many others do it seems, thankfully.
Despite the unfair derision they get trying to do something about it.

When's the next march I want to know,I will be on it for sure.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a bit silly (and convenient) to throw away the validity of the protest because of the actions of a few *****.

and what was the protest about in your view?

all I could see was people with "Tory scum" banners

I take it they mean the average UK folks who voted for the Conservatives or do they mean the democratically elected people that they voted for

this was some of the rag tag hooligans and law breakers who attended

Various groups said they supported the protest, including London Black Revs, The Brick Lane Debates, BirminghamStrong Justice 4 ALL, Kashmiri Students Campaign UK, Rojava Solidarity Working Group, Class War, Occupy Democracy, Occupy UAL, Our Brixton and Sisters Uncut.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...Whitehall.html

[user104658]

It's actually somewhere between the two. The SNP success did have in impact on Labour in England, but it was more down to the gutter press and their constant cartoons / insinuations about "Scotland pulling the strings", making an alliance something to be feared, and essentially making Scotland out to be a rival that had the impact on Labour support. Basically the SNP's success was used as a tool in Tory propaganda. Not really anything to do with what they did or didn't say themselves.