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From SkyNewsHD & BBCNewsHD
The PM will publish his Full Tax Returns
from 2010 onwards.


so Kizzy "the First for Ever Leader to do that."


Later tonight maybe
after the Sunday papers are out etc.
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If he hadn't lied this might not have been necessary and 1000s of people wouldn't be baying for his resignation...
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If he hadn't lied this might not have been necessary and 1000s of people wouldn't be baying for his resignation...

They can Stomp all they want
He Ain't leaving his Job.


He broke No Laws
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They can Stomp all they want
He Ain't leaving his Job.


He broke No Laws
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They're angry at the subterfuge I think.
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Meh it's a total non-event anyway. If Cameron was to go, he'd just be replaced with some other identikit silver spoon **nthole . If it's the tories, what does it matter if it's David Cameron or Plavid Plameron or whoever? Same pig ****er with a different face, tbh.

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I was reading the paper today, and I think cameron, and russell brand are the same, because both have not paid one penny to the tax man in their lives, and one tried to keep it under the carpet, and another tried to make himself out as, the anti capitalist hero, these mps and celebrities demand the the british public accept refugees into the country, and would they have these people placed into their homes and mansions, no, cameron and brand have the same number of houses and mansions that have the same price of value,
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I was reading the paper today, and I think cameron, and russell brand are the same, because both have not paid one penny to the tax man in their lives, and one tried to keep it under the carpet, and another tried to make himself out as, the anti capitalist hero, these mps and celebrities demand the the british public accept refugees into the country, and would they have these people placed into their homes and mansions, no, cameron and brand have the same number of houses and mansions that have the same price of value,
I would love to see you produce a source that Russell Brand has not paid one penny in tax in his life but of course you wont supply one because it is utter bollocks.


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So now we have Camerons personal tax details but it appears this special form for MP's isn't complete https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...102mp-2016.pdf because there is no mention of 'gift aid'.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ns-gift-mother
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Full credit to the PM for issuing the info today as to his tax returns.

That is commendable, what isn't is the way he tried to avoid doing so earlier in the week with a series of sidestepping actions as to the issue.

He has proven his word that nothing untoward has occurred since he got rid of these funds just before he became PM.
Well that is fine and totally to his credit but the returns he has issued only go back to that time 6 years ago.
The main issues as to this appear to be in the time he had them before 2010.

Now let us have more of the at least leading lights in govt and indeed Opposition doing the same.
Has he cleared up the queries,yes as to his time since Prime Minister, before he became PM, that remains a possible grey area still unless he intends to issue more returns from first becoming leader of the Opposition.

He has done enough for now and quite frankly has enough to do at present too fighting for his political survival with the EU referendum, if that comes back to leave, he is for sure a goner,aided by any doubts and suspicions as to these funds before 2010 which he is hopefully still intending to address now.

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'Interest from his high street savings accounts amounted to £26 in 2009-10, £87 in 2010-11, £365 in 2011-12 before rising to £2,701 in 2012-13, £6,681 in 2013-14 and £3,052 in 2014-15.'

He moved some serious money prior to the election by the look of it...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6976991.html
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'Interest from his high street savings accounts amounted to £26 in 2009-10, £87 in 2010-11, £365 in 2011-12 before rising to £2,701 in 2012-13, £6,681 in 2013-14 and £3,052 in 2014-15.'

He moved some serious money prior to the election by the look of it...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6976991.html
George really needs to change to the bank of Dave...

'The summary also showed that Mr Osborne earned just £3 from bank interest in 2014/15.'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6979061.html
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I must confess that all this 'Panama Papers' row has me very worried.

On his deathbed, my dear old dad - who worked ALL his life as a coal miner (apart from 12 years in the British Army) snided me a pair of his worn out pit boots, an empty 'Jubilee' stout bottle (which was worth 3 old pence if returned to the local Miners Welfare Club) and a screwed up ten bob note (50 pence in todays money).

"Don't tell the tax man about these son" he whispered "I've paid him enough".

Well, I never did tell the tax man, but now I'm worried. Should I have? Will I get locked up if he finds out?

I just don't know what to do.
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Donation or kick back?

'David Cameron’s troubles deepened on Saturday night as a Tory donor named in the Panama Papers was revealed as a trusted middleman for a company raided by the Serious Fraud Office, which is investigating what has been described as the world’s biggest bribery scandal.

David Cameron: blame me for mishandling Panama Papers news
Prime minister tells Tory forum he should have handled offshore fund revelations better as protesters call for resignation
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Javad Marandi, who with his wife has donated nearly £250,000 to the Conservatives, appears in a series of emails leaked from the offices of oil services business Unaoil.'

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Yes I noticed he does that Maybe he's not well? aw get well soon jez x
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Of course just another point,'if' anyone is doing anything dubious or wanting to keep quiet financially related about, especially as to 'tax'.

Then it is not going to be on any tax returns since they will not want tax authorities knowing about it anyway.

Not saying the PM has anything to answer as to this issue post 2010 now,to give him some benefit of doubt but that is the scale of the problem to even find all those not honouring the full taxes they should be.
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How is it news that he's doing this, by the way? They're all bloody at it and all always have been. This is surely common knowledge. Honestly I despair sometimes. OK not sometimes - a lot.

I can't believe people are like "Derpy derp u wot?? These people hide monies off-shore?? OMG ".

Did people GENUINELY not realise this?
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How is it news that he's doing this, by the way? They're all bloody at it and all always have been. This is surely common knowledge. Honestly I despair sometimes. OK not sometimes - a lot.

I can't believe people are like "Derpy derp u wot?? These people hide monies off-shore?? OMG ".

Did people GENUINELY not realise this?
I think it's more to do with the fact that Cameron's had the gall to lie about it AND condemn other people in the past for doing the same thing he did.

Nobody's surprised about it but now people have proof of it so now they can get angry about it and demand action.
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Nothing will happen, though. Either it will blow over and everyone will forget / not care in 6 months time, or it'll escalate to the point where Cameron has to go (IMO unlikely) and he'll be replaced with a Tory clone. A new face for the beast but nothing will actually change at all. Although good luck to them in finding an experienced Tory who hasn't fiddled their tax at some point...
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Good luck with finding anyone on the planet who doesn't want to pay less tax
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Indeed but it doesn't make it right not to,even moreso when anyone can, from their already surplus wealth, afford to employ an individual to get round such taxes and thus avoid paying all that is due.

I said earlier, I and others would likely never be able to avoid paying some paltry sum like £10 of due taxes, so why should anyone else be able to just because they are in a more privileged position.

Being able to do it and wanting to do it does not make it right.

Although actually as to your point of finding anyone who doesn't want to pay more tax, I for one would be quite content to see my taxes raised 'IF' the raised funds were going direct to the NHS or the most vulnerable.

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Indeed but it doesn't make it right not to,even moreso when anyone can, from their already surplus wealth, afford to employ an individual to get round such taxes and thus avoid paying all that is due.

I said earlier, I and others would likely never be able to avoid paying some paltry sum like £10 of due taxes, so why should anyone else be able to just because they are in a more privileged position.

Being able to do it and wanting to do it does not make it right.

Although actually as to your point of finding anyone who doesn't want to pay more tax, I for one would be quite content to see my taxes raised 'IF' the raised funds were going direct to the NHS or the most vulnerable.

If we had a breakdown of our taxes like we see on a council tax bill ( I said on the on the TV licence thread that 1.60 added for social care wasn't enough) maybe people would be more likely to pay. Say for instance you could choose to direct an extra percentage into the NHS, as it stands it goes into a black hole and a lot of it gets wasted like 9 million on a pamphlet. There will always be people who will swerve the system it doesn't make it right but you can close every loophole and anther will be found. As for listening to politicians the majority are feathering their own nests in my view.

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