[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Osborne pulled a confidence trick when he loudly and repeatedly claimed to be clamping down on tax avoidance back in the 2013 budget. What he actually did was rewrite corporate tax law which allows offshore multinationals to not only escape that clampdown but make it easier than ever to avoid paying corporate tax. He very deliberately relaxed laws that had been put in place by Nigel Lawson, that prevented companies shifting profits into their tax-haven subsidiaries.

Not surprising, Osborne is a snake in a human meat sack.

[the truth]

Cameron should resign over this alone. how the hell is the country meant to believe for a second him and osbourne will now fight to close tax loopholes, tax avoidance and evasion? what a sick joke. THIS IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE OF OUR GENERATION

[arista]

Originally Posted by the truth

Cameron should resign over this alone. how the hell is the country meant to believe for a second him and osbourne will now fight to close tax loopholes, tax avoidance and evasion? what a sick joke. THIS IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE OF OUR GENERATION

Bollocks
Done before he was PM.
Loads are the same as him.

BBC1HD Tomorrow 9PM
Have I Got News For You
recorded tonight
should have this Tip Top

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by smudgie

We all want our savings and banking kept private though Joey, no different for people with more money than us.

No, not for me in high public life where people want us to elect them to power Smudgie, I cannot go along with that.

He,David Cameron is reported to have said, offshore accounts were immoral yet as Opposition leader he had one.

I think we, if asked to vote for someone, should be able to have some belief as to their integrity, this has shown not to be the case with David Cameron now on this issue.
Nothing at all to do with his deceased Father,he was never seeking high public office.

David Cameron had this account as did his wife too,yet denied they had,sorry but I think we need to see as much as possible about those seeking election to govt.
You can also tell a fair bit about people as to their financial affairs so for me full transparency should be the norm.
Especially as to anything that could be or is tax related in any possible sense.

[Kizzy]

Youtube video

Viva la revolution?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Youtube video

Viva la revolution?

The French are notoriously militant, the last time the English were roused was during the poll tax riots

[DemolitionRed]

Viva la revolution?[/QUOTE]

The French absolutely expect their government to work on behalf of the people and refuse to tolerate government nonsense.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by arista

Bollocks
Done before he was PM.
Loads are the same as him.

BBC1HD Tomorrow 9PM
Have I Got News For You
recorded tonight
should have this Tip Top

Its been going on since Thatcher, we are only noticing now because the trains picking up speed. What we are now witnessing is state schools/NHS/fire/benefits service dismantling/war/corruption of culture and we all still thrive and refuse to believe we no longer live in a democracy because we are too busy being distracted by TV bull****; driven by buying fever and propaganda dressed up as culture

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The French are notoriously militant, the last time the English were roused was during the poll tax riots

The French are militant?

Yep if you want fairness from your government you are now militant, I guess that makes me militant too... But I'm not French

[arista]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Its been going on since Thatcher, we are only noticing now because the trains picking up speed. What we are now witnessing is state schools/NHS/fire/benefits service dismantling/war/corruption of culture and we all still thrive and refuse to believe we no longer live in a democracy because we are too busy being distracted by TV bull****; driven by buying fever and propaganda dressed up as culture

Good Dave Stopped it.
then

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Youtube video

Viva la revolution?

France has Higher Unemployed, Kizzy.

They are not a Open Market


They Need a New Government

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by arista

Good Dave Stopped it.
then

Okay, if you're happy to believe that then there's no point discussing things further.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The French are militant?

Yep if you want fairness from your government you are now militant, I guess that makes me militant too... But I'm not French

Militant as in confrontational, rather than indulging in armchair politics :

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

France has Higher Unemployed, Kizzy.

They are not a Open Market


They Need a New Government

Facts or ****...sorry I mean do you have a link to the employment statistics in France please?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Facts or ****...sorry I mean do you have a link to the employment statistics in France please?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30597756

[Cherie]

12k invested confirmed again on ITV news with a 19k profit. Cameron going to publish his tax returns, maybe I'll pick up some tips :

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I've just heard a tax lawyer talking about this, he was of the view that off shore investments brings more into HMRC coffers than local investments, so not sure where that leaves your argument


The amount the PM had invested in share offshore was 12,000, not exactly millions is it, I reckon a lot of average joes with a stocks and shares isa would have that much invested

Something to do with the fact that there are three layers of tax to it all, going offshore means you can avoid tax on investing into other companies or forming new companies.
Any profits made are still taxed at the country you live in rate.
Mr Cameron didn't even make enough profit to warrant paying capital gains tax.
If the Ł30k was between both him and Mrs Cameronthen it pales into insignificance on the tax. he does have to pay.
His wage alone will be taxed at roughly Ł48k, plus anther Ł6k or so on national nsurance. No tax free allowance for such high earners.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

Cameron should resign over this alone. how the hell is the country meant to believe for a second him and osbourne will now fight to close tax loopholes, tax avoidance and evasion? what a sick joke. THIS IS THE SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE OF OUR GENERATION

I don't agree he should resign over it but one thing is sure the damage to him is done now by his saying such funds were immoral, and then that he hadn't had one or that his family had benefited from one.
When he did have one and so did his wife too.

Anyway he is packing up before the next election and if we vote to leave the EU too, then he is gone for sure I firmly believe and pretty quickly after the referendum too.
His party is now really gearing up to oust him I think and it seems even some media have the knives out for him too.

The worst thing about this is that his words as to it have been meaningless,his word really ought to be his bond holding such a high office.
You are right in saying it is a really big issue too, it is, all these so called legal loopholes should be stopped, will we ever get a govt that will stop them I doubt that but it certainly will not be done by this present govt.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Something to do with the fact that there are three layers of tax to it all, going offshore means you can avoid tax on investing into other companies or forming new companies.
Any profits made are still taxed at the country you live in rate.
Mr Cameron didn't even make enough profit to warrant paying capital gains tax.
If the Ł30k was between both him and Mrs Cameronthen it pales into insignificance on the tax. he does have to pay.
His wage alone will be taxed at roughly Ł48k, plus anther Ł6k or so on national nsurance. No tax free allowance for such high earners.

Agree with this smudgie,well said.

[arista]

http://www.lbc.co.uk/

Listen Live now


Ken Livingston and David Mellor
are Leading Britain's Conversation.

debating this mess

[billy123]

Live coverage of people protesting outside 10 Downing street.

Youtube video

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30597756

Thanks, that was a while ago it may have improved?

[DemolitionRed]

Best bits between 3 mins in and 10 mins approx.
Note the clip of Cameron ranting on about Jimmy Carr... what a ****ing hypocrite. Not unexpected though. Seems to have failed in his spin-doctoring too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...s-51-episode-1

Personally I don't think we've heard everything yet. Whoever is holding this information is likely holding back until Cameron thinks he's safe.

[arista]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Best bits between 3 mins in and 10 mins approx.
Note the clip of Cameron ranting on about Jimmy Carr... what a ****ing hypocrite. Not unexpected though. Seems to have failed in his spin-doctoring too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...s-51-episode-1

Personally I don't think we've heard everything yet. Whoever is holding this information is likely holding back until Cameron thinks he's safe.

Yes I started a thread on TV Chat
perfect time , for this new series.


Yes the PM is Safe
No Law Breaking,
just holding back info.



I do hope Corbyn has a good Script on Weds PMQ's ?
As Dave will have info on Labour Tax problems.

[billy123]

Out playing his part in protesting this disgrace of a Government.