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Old 18-03-2018, 08:47 PM #1
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It shouldn't be axed but I think people should make more of an effort to try and just stick to the topics of threads rather than eachother
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literally every thread posted in that subforum is relentlessly depressing i just think the forum would benefit from the cull
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I think it does rather open the floodgates to pointless political arguments, which a lot of the time can create more personal insults than most topics, but at the same time, the topics would just end up being somewhere else and in fairness, if people can't be mature enough to listen to other people's opinions than actually listening to another side of an argument and instead act like mentally challanged children, then at least the SD section is keeping them off the streets.
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I think it does rather open the floodgates to pointless political arguments, which a lot of the time can create more personal insults than most topics, but at the same time, the topics would just end up being somewhere else and in fairness, if people can't be mature enough to listen to other people's opinions than actually listening to another side of an argument and instead act like mentally challanged children, then at least the SD section is keeping them off the streets.
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I think it does rather open the floodgates to pointless political arguments, which a lot of the time can create more personal insults than most topics, but at the same time, the topics would just end up being somewhere else and in fairness, if people can't be mature enough to listen to other people's opinions than actually listening to another side of an argument and instead act like mentally challanged children, then at least the SD section is keeping them off the streets.
How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.
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How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway. IMO but I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.


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How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
The issues we see on the news that are brought here for debate will create a degree of polarisation due to our personal life experiences, occasionally that can create a distinct division as is seen in wider society, we are a cross section here too so why would we have to be held to a higher standard?

Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.

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How rude :/

If in chat and games they spoke of anything deeper than their love for the latest meme it might draw out some genuine resonance towards a topic.

Look at politics in the UK at the moment there are personal insults, backbiting, infighting and spin ... why would here be any different?
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Mocking people for attempting to tackle contemporary issues serves no purpose, I am not infallible and occasionally become frustrated I make no apologies for that, personally I find it helps to come here and voice my feelings on current affairs it's a form of escapism.
It's disconcerting to see that your thoughts and feelings are being denigrated to nothing but the ravings of the demented.

It may not always be rational, that is the nature of debate occasionally, I would never purposefully set out to offend or insult anyone, but I can't hand on heart say I've not expressed an opinion that I know will prove controversial... What's the alternative, compromise my principles?

I appreciate there are those who are feeling exactly the same, I also appreciate there are those whose sole purpose it to troll, it's possible to avoid these posters to maintain a thread topic but not always.
That said I see this as nothing more than a thread started to maintain the drama that recent threads created and had no initial positive intent anyway IMO however I felt it necessary to attempt to give a reasoned view based on my opinion as a regular contributor to SD.
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If it was down to me, I'd get rid. It's pretty much impossible to mod that section and most threads end up down the toilet before long.
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If people stuck to the topic, it would be excellent. But some dont, and their offtopic posts are left for people to respond to making the whole thing pointless.
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Actually the BB section is the first section I'd cull.
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...I think ‘the heat’ can be taken by all who tend to post there, Twosugars..the heat of debates and topics that is...but it’s more getting to that ‘heat’ and finding it and keeping it on track as it’s were...with so much personal stuff which (...from threads I’ve seen recently..)...seems to ‘carry’ from thread to thread to thread and topic to topic etc...the ‘heat’ is lovely but the heat gets distracted from so much, is the thing...
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...I think ‘the heat’ can be taken by all who tend to post there, Twosugars..the heat of debates and topics that is...but it’s more getting to that ‘heat’ and finding it and keeping it on track as it’s were...with so much personal stuff which (...from threads I’ve seen recently..)...seems to ‘carry’ from thread to thread to thread and topic to topic etc...the ‘heat’ is lovely but the heat gets distracted from so much, is the thing...
Valid point, Ammi. But that can be also true of any threads/topics, for example BB threads often get vicious.
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