[fingers]

Excellent liar!

[Jack_]

Ever thought she might be a bit embarrassed admitting she was strangled and pinned down by him? Just an idea

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Ever thought she might be a bit embarrassed admitting she was strangled and pinned down by him? Just an idea

I believe parts of the forum can't see past their dislike for her.

[Marc]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I believe parts of the forum can't see past their dislike for her.

I'm going to go on a cull and ban these people

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Marc

I'm going to go on a cull and ban these people

Do it, do it, do it, do it.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Ever thought she might be a bit embarrassed admitting she was strangled and pinned down by him? Just an idea

Or that she made him mad by pulling down his shorts?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by fingers

Or that she made him mad by pulling down his shorts?

So Hazel takes responsibility for her own actions but Daley's actions are Hazel's fault as well?

Very bizarre logic indeed.

[Ramsay]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Ever thought she might be a bit embarrassed admitting she was strangled and pinned down by him? Just an idea

exactly what i think. she's probably just still freaked out by the whole thing

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Ever thought she might be a bit embarrassed admitting she was strangled and pinned down by him? Just an idea

nah I think shes embarrassed by pulling his pants down

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by the truth

nah I think shes embarrassed by pulling his pants down

Or maybe not

Look, I agree that was an unacceptable action too and do also partly agree with your thread that had it been a man the reaction would've been totally different (there was a discussion similar to this when Denise did it to the twins in CBB9) but let's face facts here, she was pinned to the bed and strangled, I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to divulge that to the entire house

You raise some reasonable points but the seeping misogyny is irritating and just demeans every point you make

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Or maybe not

Look, I agree that was an unacceptable action too and do also partly agree with your thread that had it been a man the reaction would've been totally different (there was a discussion similar to this when Denise did it to the twins in CBB9) but let's face facts here, she was pinned to the bed and strangled, I'm pretty sure she doesn't want to divulge that to the entire house

You raise some reasonable points but the seeping misogyny is irritating and just demeans every point you make

I don't care if you want to label me mysoginist , its total rubbish anyway. Im just giving my genuine opinion regardless of whatever you or anyone else wants to hear or whatever the prevailing orthodoxy is regarding political correctness and so on....both must take responsibility for their actions. she actually grabbed his throat earlier in the sequence of events. I have no idea where this was a game and where it became serious. clearly hes not a very bright bloke, shes smarter too. but whether he is capable of acting on the threats he made who knows. she deliberately provoked him throughout though and it was inevitable hed lose his temper. as Ive said umpteen times id have booted them both. as I also said earlier, denise welch physically and sexually assaulted housemates and never got booted solely on the fact she is a woman. misogyny is a problem, misandry is another huge problem too.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

I don't care if you want to label me mysoginist , its total rubbish anyway. Im just giving my genuine opinion regardless of whatever you or anyone else wants to hear or whatever the prevailing orthodoxy is regarding political correctness and so on....both must take responsibility for their actions. she actually grabbed his throat earlier in the sequence of events. I have no idea where this was a game and where it became serious. clearly hes not a very bright bloke, shes smarter too. but whether he is capable of acting on the threats he made who knows. she deliberately provoked him throughout though and it was inevitable hed lose his temper. as Ive said umpteen times id have booted them both. as I also said earlier, denise welch physically and sexually assaulted housemates and never got booted solely on the fact she is a woman. misogyny is a problem, misandry is another huge problem too.

Why was it inevitable? don't judge all by your own low standards... A real man would never behave in that manner.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Ever thought she might be a bit embarrassed admitting she was strangled and pinned down by him? Just an idea

This. And maybe she didn't know what he did would -definately- lead to him being thrown out. You don't know what she was thinking.

[GiRTh]

Dan is right . She needs to tell them.

[lynnet39]

they need to show the house what acually happened from begining to end

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by lynnet39

they need to show the house what acually happened from begining to end

No they dont.

Now that I've seen her very accurate recollection of the events I think she's totally genuine. I think she's seen it for what it was and I think Dan is right, she did nothing wrong and has nothing to be ashamed about.

[fingers]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

No they dont.

Now that I've seen her very accurate recollection of the events I think she's totally genuine. I think she's seen it for what it was and I think Dan is right, she did nothing wrong and has nothing to be ashamed about.

She watered down her part so that it was all Daley's doing!

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by fingers

She watered down her part so that it was all Daley's doing!

I think her recollection was very accurate considering they'd been drinking and it was quite a scary incident.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

No they dont.

Now that I've seen her very accurate recollection of the events I think she's totally genuine. I think she's seen it for what it was and I think Dan is right, she did nothing wrong and has nothing to be ashamed about.

Yep, I think she's being hugely honest here and with Dan, she told him she was warned too and what for. I don't think she was being devious or calculating in the diary room afterwards either, I think she told the honest truth of how she felt at the time, she wasn't being OTT or screaming for his removal

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

No they dont.

Now that I've seen her very accurate recollection of the events I think she's totally genuine. I think she's seen it for what it was and I think Dan is right, she did nothing wrong and has nothing to be ashamed about.

very accurate?? are you on medication??

I think the others, including Dan, will see things very differently when they find out the WHOLE story and not just Hazel's edited highlights

CANT WAIT FOR HER EVICTION INTERVIEW.........GO EMMA!!!!!!!!!!

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

very accurate?? are you on medication??

I think the others, including Dan, will see things very differently when they find out the WHOLE story and not just Hazel's edited highlights

CANT WAIT FOR HER EVICTION INTERVIEW.........GO EMMA!!!!!!!!!!

The whole story is that Daley slapped her hard and put his hands on her neck, he also used vile and offensive language. Hazel thought it was play fighting at the start and said go for it. Then when he snapped she was genuinely upset and a bit afraid of what was happening. Hazel could make a big song and dance of it and tell all the housemates what happened and maybe make the likes of Sam and Dexter change their opinions of Daley but she chose not to do that. She is in the right here and he was totally and utterly wrong end of

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by lynnet39

they need to show the house what acually happened from begining to end

Ohh ffs what is with people wanting the housemates to see everything, ****.

[vivparker]

Originally Posted by lynnet39

they need to show the house what acually happened from begining to end

I totally agree. her recollection was a little bit off pat - she made it sound like they were both nicking each others covers when, from wot I saw, it was only her. she also didn't mention the egging him on to "scare her". she is a dangerous girl who appears to have dug her claws into dan now. Daley's actions were unforgiveable but she has got to accept that she was partly responsible.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by vivparker

I totally agree. her recollection was a little bit off pat - she made it sound like they were both nicking each others covers when, from wot I saw, it was only her. she also didn't mention the egging him on to "scare her". she is a dangerous girl who appears to have dug her claws into dan now. Daley's actions were unforgiveable but she has got to accept that she was partly responsible.

I now give up completely.WHAT ????

[Jamie585]

Why should she tell everyone? Its a horrible thing to talk about. Cut her some slack.