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Old 05-03-2015, 01:06 PM #1
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Jonathon Brennan (29), from Drogheda, Co Louth, said he was “infuriated and shocked” when the owner of local printers, Beulah Print & Design, told him they would not do business with him because “we don’t agree with homosexuality”.

The salon owner, who will become civil partnered to his boyfriend of eight years, John Kierans (35), in August, said he had been doing business with the printers for four years before the refusal.

Mr Brennan told the Irish Independent: “It came to the time that we were to organise getting our invitations printed for our ceremony. I contacted the printers, because they know me, and they’ve done some work for me before, and I was quite happy with their work.”

He said the co-owner, Noel Tuite, initially agreed to print the invitations, but when he visited Mr Brennan’s salon yesterday afternoon, it became apparent that he had changed his mind.

“He said, ‘Myself and my business partner are devout Christians. We don’t believe in gay marriage, and we don’t agree with homosexuality. So in this instance, there’s a conflict of interest, and we won’t be able to do business with you.’

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“I was shocked. I didn’t know what was going to come out of his mouth. He said it would be the same instance if somebody came in and they wanted to get a picture of a nude woman printed. We wouldn’t be able to do that either.

“I said, ‘I wish I had been aware of your conflicts of interest four years ago before I started doing business with you.’ He went to shake my hand, but I wouldn’t shake it, and he left. I was just infuriated by this, and shocked, that this was the attitude from a local businessman. Not in my adult life have I ever experienced anything like this.”

Mr Brennan added: “The gay marriage referendum is coming up, and it’s not an open and shut case. A lot of the younger generation would believe that gay people should be entitled to get married. But not everybody thinks that way. I feel it is important to highlight that.”

This morning Beulah Print released a statement outlining why it took the decision.

It said: We, at Beulah Print, are Bible-believing Christians who are committed to standing by our conscience and God’s Word.

“We have never hidden our faith from our customers and represent the gospel at every opportunity. We are not against homosexuals however, we do not support same sex marriage, which printing wedding invitations would do.

“We believe the love of God is extended to all people and that He has called us all to walk in the light of His word, for He is the way, the truth and the life.”

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Chapters 18 and 20 of Leviticus, which form part of the Holiness code and list prohibited forms of intercourse, contain the following verses:

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."


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“ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."


So the printers are correct as Bible believing Christians to abhor homosexuality as it says so it their instruction manual
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Chapters 18 and 20 of Leviticus, which form part of the Holiness code and list prohibited forms of intercourse, contain the following verses:

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."


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“ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God."


So the printers are correct as Bible believing Christians to abhor homosexuality as it says so it their instruction manual
no they are not correct, the quotes you gave said that men shall not lie with a man as he does with a woman. gay men don't lie with women at all, so they don't lie with men as they do with women.

The bible is only against bisexuality, not homosexuality. and it says nothing about lesbianism.
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no they are not correct, the quotes you gave said that men shall not lie with a man as he does with a woman. gay men don't lie with women at all, so they don't lie with men as they do with women.

The bible is only against bisexuality, not homosexuality. and it says nothing about lesbianism.

it depends on what translation you use

God is not keen on cross dressers also

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Deuteronomy 22:5
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well he's getting a load of ****ty publicity today, all the radio stations are talking about it
I saw a few posts about it on fb already by noon, it's ridiculous, they should just report the business for discrimination and then forget about it.
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I saw a few posts about it on fb already by noon, it's ridiculous, they should just report the business for discrimination and then forget about it.
They're talking about it on 4fm now on the Niall Boylan show
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he asks the most outrageous questions. Jesus could very well have been gay. He might have been Mary Magdalene's gay best friend.
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he asks the most outrageous questions. Jesus could very well have been gay. He might have been Mary Magdalene's gay best friend.
Well he was asking this guy and he said who was he with so, we never saw him with anyone, knowing that he wouldn't say Mary Magdalene because of course the church have to deny that he could have been married to her lol, he said for all you know he could have been secretly meeting up with Judas
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Well he was asking this guy and he said who was he with so, we never saw him with anyone, knowing that he wouldn't say Mary Magdalene because of course the church have to deny that he could have been married to her lol, he said for all you know he could have been secretly meeting up with Judas
They did have a kiss once or twice, there's proof of that, funny how nobody around them though it was strange.
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No, but I've always said that I am a 'unorthodox Christian' Matt, and my extensive research into my religion leads me to the conviction that Jesus was Mary's partner and very probably married to her.

Apart from the fact that Jesus was an adult Jewish male and it is the norm in Judaism to be married at his age, there is just so much evidence for this that it is ridiculous - in my opinion - not to accept as much.

From 1,600 year old texts coming to light which had hitherto been hidden away in the British Museum, to the evidence of the Nag Hammadi 'Lost Gospels' , to the secret 'codes' within Da Vinci and Michelangelo's art works, the evidence is compelling.

The latest revelations about the recently discovered and reconstructed clay prototype of Michaelangelo's 'Pieta' is especially persuasive.

The fact that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene does nothing to detract from him being the Christ and perhaps it's time that orthodox Christians should take a fresh look at Christianity and acknowledge that much of what we read in our Holy Bible owes more to MAN's prejudice-driven draconian editing than any unaltered truth.
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You Naughty Naughty Girl. (Elton was just confused and didn't know which way to point his Candle In The Wind )
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