[TomC]

Tbf I feel like everyone bar Jason brought a lot to BB17 - I'm not even a Jason hater

And I think the others were all brilliant characters (likeable or not) and Natalie, Jayne and Andrew were very off-the-wall choices

[Cal.]

It would have been ****e without the Others.

Georgina would have ruled the house and they'd all have been intimidated by her and Jackson to nom her so she probably would have made it far. Jackson, Alex, Lateysha and Sam would sail straight to the end. Laura, Evelyn and Emma would have been gone by Week 4.

[y.winter]

The other house was perfect. I mean, embarrassingly executed, but they nailed it with the housemates. Little to none irrelevant housemates.

[Daniel.]

It was literally BB4 with BB6 next door

[Cal.]

Can see next year being a disaster though. They'll look at the success of BB17 and try to replicate it like they did with BB15 after BB14, but the cast probably won't live up to it.

[Daniel.]

CBB will probably be trash too

2016 was good but let down by CBB18 and the second half of CBB17

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Cal.

Can see next year being a disaster though. They'll look at the success of BB17 and try to replicate it like they did with BB15 after BB14, but the cast probably won't live up to it.

I dread to think what BB18 could be like

[Cal.]

Jan CBB is guaranteed to be trash since the only good ex-hm returning is Jas. We'll see about BB18 and CBB20 though.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by TomC

I dread to think what BB18 could be like

I'd imagine more people like Lateysha, Hughie, Ryan and Jayne as well as more housemates who want to 'play the game' but the series won't have a structure like BB17 didn't.

[Cal.]

BB17 had a heavy emphasis on 'playing the game' so I can see the show heading towards that in the near future.

[Daniel.]

All Stars could have been the best ever if they brought back the right people

AKA pandered to the gays

[Cal.]

BB17 had a running theme of the housemates who were there for experience/fame (such as Ryan, Hughie, Lateysha) vs. the people who were willing and did play the game such as Jason and Andy. Andrew was a big gamplayer too and I think Natalie also tried to play the game very cleverly with trying to turn the main house against her enemies to keep herself in there but she was cast as the angry black woman who has to leave in the first few weeks and so it didn't work out for her.

[Cal.]

I wouldn't mind if Old Stars vs New Stars had to have terrible men because there's hardly any good men as it is and the best one died a few weeks ago as long as they gave us the likes of Tiffany, Luisa and Frenchy as the female cast but the fact Katie Hopkins and Jas Lennard are the only women rumoured suggests to me that for the 'old stars' cast it'll literally just be those 2 and a bunch of terrible men.

for Natalie Nunn and Drita D'Avanzo on the new stars team.

[Cal.]

They've planned it for an awkward time for old stars really. I know they can't change the fact that Pete died, but in terms of other realistic housemates they could get; Steph will have just had her baby, Luisa has just had her second baby and Tiffany has just joined the cast of a new show so they're going to be clutching at straws for a January series.

Hopefully the rumours are true and CBB20 will be a full blown All-Stars as opposed to CBB19 just having a few and then we can get the likes of Tiffany, Luisa and Frenchy under one roof.

[Daniel.]

Frenchy, Tiffany, Janice, Luisa, Farrah, Shannon Twins and Nicola please

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Pete.

Agreed

Andrew was totally robbed, he would've been iconic if he'd actually been allowed to stay.

[Cal.]

I'd like anyone from the 'wish list' (but I doubt some of them would do it again)-

Shannon Twins
Nicola McLean
Jasmine Lennard
Julie Goodyear - Wouldn't do it again.
Luisa Zissman
Frenchy Morgan
Leslie Jordan - Wouldn't do it again.
Katie Price
Cami Li
Natasha Hamilton - Wouldn't do it again.
Janice Dickinson - Wouldn't do it again.
Farrah Abraham - Wouldn't do it again.
Tiffany Pollard
Gemma Collins - Wouldn't do it again.
Megan McKenna
Stephanie Davis (to see her without Jeremy)

[Daniel.]

I see Julie and Lesli, but I dont know why think Natasha, Janice, Farrah and Gemma wouldnt?

[Cal.]

Natasha hated it, Janice and Farrah were involved in the BOTS brawl and Gemma clearly couldn't stand being there she broke out every day.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

I wouldn't mind if Old Stars vs New Stars had to have terrible men because there's hardly any good men as it is and the best one died a few weeks ago as long as they gave us the likes of Tiffany, Luisa and Frenchy as the female cast but the fact Katie Hopkins and Jas Lennard are the only women rumoured suggests to me that for the 'old stars' cast it'll literally just be those 2 and a bunch of terrible men.

for Natalie Nunn and Drita D'Avanzo on the new stars team.

It's still quite early tbf and we don't even know if this Stars thing is confirmed. I doubt there'll be two women just because not a lot are being rumoured.

I'd rather they just had a normal CBB with new celebrities tbh.

[Cal.]

Originally Posted by Jason.

It's still quite early tbf and we don't even know if this Stars thing is confirmed. I doubt they'll be two women just because not a lot are being rumoured.

I'd rather they just had a normal CBB with new celebrities tbh.

I meant the 'Old Stars' might be like 4 men and 2 women and then the 'New Stars' might be 4 women and 2 men if you get me?

[reece(:]

Still waiting for Selina, Lady C and Natalie

[Daniel.]

Michelle Bass is one of the best housemates ever. She's underrated.

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Still waiting for Selina

Yes

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Daniel.

Michelle Bass is one of the best housemates ever. She's underrated.