[LukeB]

I forgot Cassandra's horrible treatment towards Loveita

Mostly everyone was quite nasty to Loveita

[JerseyWins]

I agree that's fair @Raph. And if she makes it to final 2 she's up there with the most deserving winners this season. I respect her gameplay for sure but I find her personality traits to be so annoying personally.

[LukeB]

I respect Cassandra as a player but not as a person.. she was quite nasty towards Loveita. the treatment Loveita had from most of them were nasty and uncalled for, Jared/Christine/Cassandra idk who else

[Lostie!]

Here for Luke removing Cass from his sig 24 hours after adding her.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

I agree that's fair @Raph. And if she makes it to final 2 she's up there with the most deserving winners this season. I respect her gameplay for sure but I find her personality traits to be so annoying personally.

I think it resonates with what I said about the brothers in another thread as well. Whilst I don't like them as people, they have played a good game so I would respect them as deserving winners if they make final 2 as well. The only person, in my opinion, of the final 5 who doesn't deserve to win is Kelsey.

Ultimately, for me gameplay always comes first and I want a winner who played the game well!

[Braden]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

I'm sorry but Cass of all people does not deserve any sympathy for being called a "psychopath" and "sociopath" when she constantly called Loveita a crazy person and a bunch of synonyms. She practically harassed her and mocked the sh*t out of her even right to her face. Cold betch.

She IS playing the game like a sociopath with no conscience. It's mean and ignorant to actually call her one but she's kinda playing that way and the brothers were pissed off about it and calling her out. That's actually respectable for her though, she's playing Big Brother well tbh aside from people knowing her game.

And they never said her family is disgusted with her. Phil said he is disgusted with her and hopes her family is too. They won't be. They're just taking the game too personally. They're one of many people, like BB10/BB11 legends, who take the game personally. And it's hilarious.

I'm disgusted by her too lol... Not disgusted with her lying, but with her cold personality that likes to play the victim so much when the roles are reversed.

Well I agree with the first part, although I don't think Cassandra ever got rally aggressive with Loveita.

She may be playing the game like a 'sociopath', but I still don't think the brothers applying that to the way Cassandra's life outside the game is acceptable. And yes, that actually makes it worse that he said 'I hope your family are disgusted with you' because he's trying to guilt trip her by bringng her family's point of view into the equation when it really isn't necessary.

And finally, Cassandra really wasn't playing the victim at all during that argument. Phil started crying for goodness sake

I understand that you're a fan of the brothers, but I really hate to see their actions from last night defended (I know you probably don't agree with what went on entirely, but the severity of it was so uncomfortable). I suppose we'll probably just agree to disagree in this instance though

edit: It also annoys how they were angry at both Cassandra and Tim, but when Cassandra ended up making a certain point they directed all their anger at her and Tim was forgiven all of a sudden.

[Braden]

(This is just a general observation about the brothers)

The brothers (mainly Phil tbh) defended Kelsey during the balcony confrontation by saying "This is Big Brother" or "We're playing a game". A confrontation that actually had nothing to do with them (once it played out) and yet they still belittled Mitch's points by reassuring him that they were playing a game. However, when the shoe is on the other foot and something happens when they're in a vulnerable position they go ballistic.

I think what I'm trying to say is that when they're in a good position they think and talk highly of the game, yet when they're in a bad one they throw their toys out the pram and think of ways to make other people feel bad about their own game.

[JerseyWins]

I'll agree to disagree because I'm not saying it wasn't taken too far but it really wasn't to the point of being uncomfortable to watch either IMO. It's close to any other big argument we see on this show and plenty of those are viewed as great moments regardless of if a few offensive or insensitive comments were thrown out. Maybe different tastes / different situations but that was entertaining to me and I don't see a need to feel sorry for Cass knowing what she's been like all season. I mean the brothers were spot on but in an exaggerated and mean manner.

Kelsey & the brothers said it perfectly in a convo I just saw between them from this morning: Cassandra just keeps picking at a person to get them mad. To add to that, when they do get mad she's all "why are you mad at me?" in her "manipulative voice" that Nick mentioned in yesterday's argument. I think it's just part of her gameplay though which is good on her but annoying.

Cassandra goes to being sarcastic in a confrontation so sure she may not be aggressive towards a person but she's cold-hearted leading up to (or in the past during sometimes) an argument in more of a passive-aggressive way. It's annoying to watch over and over with the people she doesn't like in the house.

[DrunkerThanMoses]

cass has been the worst house guest this sseaso. She has been nothing but a ppathetic try hard who hasttreated others disgustingly. Such an embarrassment to the game and females

[jyunga]

WTF Cass has been awesome. She's standing up for herself and playing the game lol

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Raph

It's true, Cass is playing the game like a sociopath. So did Dan BB10. These are the players I like and admire most

that's kinda concerning then that you relate to and identify with a sociopath like Dan.

[Raph]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

that's kinda concerning then that you relate to and identify with a sociopath like Dan.

Philipe and Nick calling Cass a sociopath teas?

[Jack_]

Phil's infatuation with Jared confirmed

[Jack_]

Tim won the Veto yaaaaaaasssss

Okay so it's not perfect but now they need to work their magic to somehow get the brothers up

[Jack_]

I'm just SO pleased it wasn't the brothers or Kelsey omfg

I'd rather Joel go than Cass this week and that's more of a possibility than the brothers option so if they can't get that to work she needs to work that social game

[zakman440]

Timmy pulled it out of the bag . Glad that he's safe for another week. Hopefully the brothers will go up, but I don't see it happening

[Jack_]

Apparently Tim went a bit crazy and refused to shake Phil's hand or something so he's literally just been like 'I hope he feels good that he's gonna take $20k off someone'

[Jack_]

So ****ing here for it

[Jack_]

In other news

Audrey, is that you?

[JerseyWins]

This is best case scenario IMO. Cass to go (I hope they don't somehow turn it on Joel getting evicted tho)

[Jack_]

The brothers are complaining that it was rigged for Tim and I'm laughing because the double eviction happened to you you ****ing twats

[Jack_]

Still early but there's already talk on Twitter that Joel was apparently helping the brothers and Kelsey

[Jack_]

also yeah I'm confident at this point Joel would go, none of them will beat him, Cass has burned far more jury votes, he's better in comps

It's the logical choice

[Jack_]

Oh and Joel put Kelsey up. Obvs

[JerseyWins]

Hmmm, this is going to depend on how Kelsey truly feels about Cassandra but I don't think Kelsey would leave the duo of Tim & Cass still in there after just taking a shot at them this week. Especially if Joel did help them in the comp.