[arista]

Campaign poster: Justice Minister
Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf said the
outcome of the vote reflected a fear of Islamic fundamentalism

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0YKlTZNTD

"Referendum...Referendum...????
Whats that then?
Well done the Swiss....Way to go
- Tony, Buckingham, 29/11/2009"

Taken from that site.

"Swiss voters have backed a ban on building minarets
at the country's mosques - in a shock move
the government warned could play into the hands of extremists. "



Nothing Extreme here
they have 4 of those places - they are lucky to have them
in Switzerland.
At least this was a Public Vote on this.




Sign Of The Times.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by arista

Campaign poster: Justice Minister
Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf said the
outcome of the vote reflected a fear of Islamic fundamentalism

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...#ixzz0YKlTZNTD

"Referendum...Referendum...????
Whats that then?
Well done the Swiss....Way to go
- Tony, Buckingham, 29/11/2009"

Taken from that site.

"Swiss voters have backed a ban on building minarets
at the country's mosques - in a shock move
the government warned could play into the hands of extremists. "



Nothing Extreme here
they have 4 of those places - they are lucky to have them
in Switzerland.
At least this was a Public Vote on this.




Sign Of The Times.

Saw something about this on the news last week. Decision hadn't been made at that point. Glad that the Swiss people have stood up to be counted in order to protect their country's heritage. I completely agree with their decision.

I dare say this may just provide the extremists with yet another excuse to vent their vile hatred of the West - but people cannot bow down to their threats and intimidation by not voting for the ban! Well done the Swiss!

[Wildcat!]

I dont get it! Whats the problem with a minaret?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

I dont get it! Whats the problem with a minaret?

What is a Minaret?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

What is a Minaret?

The Muslim Spike on there buildings.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

I dont get it! Whats the problem with a minaret?

It Ain't a Muslim Nation
its not Saudi Arabia it is Switzerland

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

What is a Minaret?

MOst mosques have a vertical structure with a crescent on top



Iam baffled as to where the problem is!

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by arista

It Ain't a Muslim Nation
its not Saudi Arabia it is Switzerland

I wasnt expeting a robot answer. Rather a real one, since you are on the serious debate section.
They didnt ban mosques, just the minaret. What is the problem with it? Do you know what the issue is? I assume you do, since you posted it.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

MOst mosques have a vertical structure with a crescent on top



Iam baffled as to where the problem is!

Incase they take them down and use them as weapons??? lol

yeah, I'm with you there!

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Incase they take them down and use them as weapons??? lol

yeah, I'm with you there!

OK, I went and got some infos on this. As I expected, the OP, dont have no idea what the issue is. Probably just posted this because he read it somewhere, without even knowing why!

Anyways, apparently, the Swiss People's Party labeled minarets as symbols of rising Muslim political power that could one day transform Switzerland into an Islamic nation. To begin with they got 100,000 signatures to hold a referendum on the issue by using scare tactics. Then they posted banners all over Switzerland which showed minarets as missiles rising from the Swiss flag next to a fully veiled woman.

And get this, there are whole of 3 mosque with minarets on them in the whole Switzerland!! YEah, very scary. WHat in the hell is Europe coming to!

Tragically, this is the kind of over the top stupid anti islamic actions, that incite even stupider extremists to do something drastic. Oh well.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

OK, I went and got some infos on this. As I expected, the OP, dont have no idea what the issue is. Probably just posted this because he read it somewhere, without even knowing why!

Anyways, apparently, the Swiss People's Party labeled minarets as symbols of rising Muslim political power that could one day transform Switzerland into an Islamic nation. To begin with they got 100,000 signatures to hold a referendum on the issue by using scare tactics. Then they posted banners all over Switzerland which showed minarets as missiles rising from the Swiss flag next to a fully veiled woman.

And get this, there are whole of 3 mosque with minarets on them in the whole Switzerland!! YEah, very scary. WHat in the hell is Europe coming to!

Tragically, this is the kind of over the top stupid anti islamic actions, that incite even stupider extremists to do something drastic. Oh well.

I'm not a religious person but I have no problem with people who are as long as they don't try to force it on me or anyone else. I really don't see what the problem is with Minarets and I don't see why anyone else would either

[30stone]

If they allow mosques then why not allow minarets.

You'd think they would just not have mosques if they were that worried.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

I'm not a religious person but I have no problem with people who are as long as they don't try to force it on me or anyone else. I really don't see what the problem is with Minarets and I don't see why anyone else would either

Same for me. I am muslim, but not a very religious person either. I smoke and drink, and I dont remember the last time Ive been to a mosque , but this is one of the most blatant islamophobia thing I have ever seen.
And its hilarious when I read statements like, they dont have churhs in muslim countries. IN my country which is 95% muslims, there are more than 10 churches, in the capital city alone. As a matter of fact, the cathedral, is the biggest religious structure in whole of Dakar and is right in the middle of the city.



I wonder what would happen if they banned the minarets on that!

[Stu]

Good on them. God forbid they see a minaret in the sky and suddenly forget they are Swiss and are living in Switzerland.

Is this news story real? Seriously? How bored are the Swiss government? They remind me of the Australian government, who are so busy at various world affairs they managed to ban adults from playing Left 4 Dead 2.

[arista]

Originally Posted by 30stone

If they allow mosques then why not allow minarets.

You'd think they would just not have mosques if they were that worried.

Because it is not part of the Swiss way.
4 is enough
the public there have Voted.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by arista

Because it is not part of the Swiss way.
4 is enough
the public there have Voted.

Neither is Buddhism. Or Taoism. Or Satanism. Or 90% of their popular musical acts. Or most of the television they get. Should we ban all them too? Should we ban all outside culture HERE too? After all, that DOES seem to be your logic.

Is that Hulk picutre in your avatar a British creation?

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by arista

Because it is not part of the Swiss way.
4 is enough
the public there have Voted.

That shouldnt have been up for a vote in the first place. And I am gonna give you some logic, although I doubt you will see it, but I'll give it a try. The only reason that referendum passed, with 50 something percent I thing, is because the only people who bothered to vote for it, are the once who want it banned, and the muslims probably. Most people wouldnt care, so they wont even bother voting. Anything such referendum, usually passes.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

That shouldnt have been up for a vote in the first place. And I am gonna give you some logic, although I doubt you will see it, but I'll give it a try. The only reason that referendum passed, with 50 something percent I thing, is because the only people who bothered to vote for it, are the once who want it banned, and the muslims probably. Most people wouldnt care, so they wont even bother voting. Anything such referendum, usually passes.

Good point. The angry vote is always the popular vote.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

That shouldnt have been up for a vote in the first place. And I am gonna give you some logic, although I doubt you will see it, but I'll give it a try. The only reason that referendum passed, with 50 something percent I thing, is because the only people who bothered to vote for it, are the once who want it banned, and the muslims probably. Most people wouldnt care, so they wont even bother voting. Anything such referendum, usually passes.

It is After The Fact
now.


This is not a Muslim Nation
it has many rich Muslims living there
also for Tax reasons Phil Collins (Genesis Rock Band)
lives there.



Life In The Fast Lane.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Stu

Neither is Buddhism. Or Taoism. Or Satanism. Or 90% of their popular musical acts. Or most of the television they get. Should we ban all them too? Should we ban all outside culture HERE too? After all, that DOES seem to be your logic.

Is that Hulk picutre in your avatar a British creation?

Hulk Image is Property of Marvel Inc.
It Represents me in every way.

[Shaun]

Ridiculous decision - it's the equivalent of banning crosses :\

[Stu]

Originally Posted by arista

Hulk Image is Property of Marvel Inc.
It Represents me in every way.

My sincerest thanks to you for missing the point I was trying to put across. What a political stalwart you are.

Go back to massaging your ego, you tired old gimmick. The best thing on this forum with your name on it isin't even your creation.

[arista]

[QUOTE=Shaun;2722935]Ridiculous decision - it's the equivalent of banning crosses :\[/QUOTE

You have it wrong
It is a Design Issue
it will not effect the Muslims there.
They are lucky to have 4 of them now.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by arista

It is a Design Issue

Of course it is, sure the next refferendum is going to be if potted plants outside the embassies are a good idea .

[WOMBAI]

People in Switzerland object for many reasons. Those objections include concerns that if enough minerets go up in the country - eventually the skyline of Switzerland will make it look like an islamic country - which it is not! There are also concerns that it is the start of a slippery slope which will lead to other demands by Muslims such as the call of the muezzin (which calls Muslims to prayer). Switzerland is not a Muslim country - there is nothing wrong with the Swiss people wanting to protect their culture by objecting to certain practices by other religions that could be seen to jeopardize their way of life.

The minaret "is a political symbol against integration; a symbol more of segregation, and first of all, a symbol to try to introduce Sharia law parallel to Swiss rights,".

"When you look at the European Union, where are there extremists?" asked Schluer. "In the suburbs and ghetto banlieues of Paris and London. . . . We don't want that in Switzerland."

He said Muslims were welcome in Switzerland but must assimilate into Swiss society.