[Tom]

Thought it would be a good thread off the back of RATM/Joe stuff, although not related to them in any way but more just in general.

OK so whats the fuss about these two types? Why is one different from the other and why do people look down on manufactured acts giving those who write their own music the moral upper ground? And why do people get looked down on for listening to certain types of music?

At the end of the day, if it sounds good it sounds good and if it doesn't it doesn't, so whats the big deal with it all?

[MrGaryy]

it's not about looking down on someone if they like a certain type of music, its how they try and justify it. I like Heidi Montag's music a lot but I won't be seen nominating her in 'best singer ever' comps or talking about her artistry. It's about putting these people, who are really just dolls being used to display other's talents in the same category as true artists.

[Twilight]

I agree with everything you said there.
Its about if i like the songs, who cares if its manufactured or not.
I agree with what you said about people get looked down on for listening to certain types of music as well.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

it's not about looking down on someone if they like a certain type of music, its how they try and justify it. I like Heidi Montag's music a lot but I won't be seen nominating her in 'best singer ever' comps or talking about her artistry. It's about putting these people, who are really just dolls being used to display other's talents in the same category as true artists.

Right I don't know who she is or anything about her music but why should she not get 'best single ever' if people think that? I mean she might not have written it but surely people like the song because she is singing it, and the way she does?

[teabag.]

To be honest its just what people prefer to listen too, I don't like manufactured music because i don't like the sound of it but a lot of people do.

[Billy]

People look down it because they like to act superior.

[ILoveTRW]

can i talk about the real world in this thread

[Shaun]

Because art is created, not manufactured.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

can i talk about the real world in this thread

WTF no duh

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by ILoveDC

can i talk about the real world in this thread

PMSFL ILY

[ILoveTRW]

Originally Posted by Twilight

WTF no duh

it says real in the title

i thought that might of been a prompt or something

[Twilight]

LMao:P

[Stephanie]

LOL

[ILoveTRW]

[Enid]

More heart and soul goes into the music and lyrics that have been written and produced by the artist. I have more respect for bands that do this.

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by Tom

Right I don't know who she is or anything about her music but why should she not get 'best single ever' if people think that? I mean she might not have written it but surely people like the song because she is singing it, and the way she does?

Because Heidi won't have written it or had anything to do with the production. She'll turn up into a studio, sing, be autotuned and maybe look hot in a video. She did nothing of any musical merit. How can anyone possibly justify her winning the award over another artist like Lady GaGa par example who will have written and produced the song her self, had total creative control in it's performance and video?

[James]

Originally Posted by Tom

Thought it would be a good thread off the back of RATM/Joe stuff, although not related to them in any way but more just in general.

OK so whats the fuss about these two types? Why is one different from the other and why do people look down on manufactured acts giving those who write their own music the moral upper ground? And why do people get looked down on for listening to certain types of music?

At the end of the day, if it sounds good it sounds good and if it doesn't it doesn't, so whats the big deal with it all?

Because the success of manufactured acts is generally more based around image (i.e looks, fashion, being cool) than the actual sounds they make. The image/music balance is more weighted to music with non-manufactured acts.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Because art is created, not manufactured.

But do you not think manufactured acts can put their own stamps onto songs so it basically becomes 'theirs'? Manufactured doesn't have to mean generic.

[Patrick]

Because RATM arent music there talentless rock dicks screaming.

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by Tom

But do you not think manufactured acts can put their own stamps onto songs so it basically becomes 'theirs'? Manufactured doesn't have to mean generic.

name me a manufactured artist who doesn't release generic music?

[MrGaryy]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Because RATM arent music there talentless rock dicks screaming.

who write, produce all of their own music?

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Because RATM arent music there talentless rock dicks screaming.

They have more talent than Joe.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Tom

But do you not think manufactured acts can put their own stamps onto songs so it basically becomes 'theirs'? Manufactured doesn't have to mean generic.

Well I dunno about you, but I can tell the difference between a cookie-cutter singer and an artist. They all have that generic sound.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by MrGaryy

name me a manufactured artist who doesn't release generic music?

Elvis. Not only a manufactured artist, but regarded as one of the best artists ever. Yet he never wrote his own stuff and was as manufactured as Girls Aloud

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Tom

Elvis. Not only a manufactured artist, but regarded as one of the best artists ever. Yet he never wrote his own stuff and was as manufactured as Girls Aloud

This was because he was a great performer and shaped rock and roll.